Heavensward Preliminary Patch Notes Discussion

[Gulkeeva]

Oh, that's a bummer... lol. Full speed to 60!

There be fates, I'm sure someone will hit lv60 within 3 days if they give ya quick flying mount access and can access areas/flying and such without doing the MSQ (well enough to start flying)

[Shenrien]

Hoping it can do entire stacks quickly... you know how you get to a point HQ don't even matter to make the final item HQ, but when you go gathering on those 24 hour nodes, and you get like 3-5 per swing and you get like 15 NQ 5 HQ or something.

It will probably be as perfect as the desynth system, nothing wrong with how that is setup.

[Niiro]

I bet some people thought I was kidding when I said based on CE preorders they're going to increase how many retainers you can buy because people proved they'll toss an extra $100 for a statue. (I had no choice really.)

I'm sure no one is trying to say that people paying ridiculous amounts of real money for collectible crap and virtual mounts are to blame for how SE conducts their business but....

[Voyage1970]

There be fates, I'm sure someone will hit lv60 within 3 days if they give ya quick flying mount access and can access areas/flying and such without doing the MSQ (well enough to start flying)

Considering the Aether Currents bullshit you have to attune yourself to to be able to fly and a large portion of them coming from MSQ I don't see Flying being something that you'll get around too that quickly. From the screenshot they showed of the Aether Current menu it seems like the green ones are based on MSQ and the red ones are from the compass. The vast majority of the currents were green (at least for Coerthas) so expect to have to grind through a decent amount of MSQ which will probably be fetch quests anyway to attune yourself.

[Akiyama]

Was there anything in the prelims stating you couldn't get exp for 51+ from old ARR leves?

[Buffy]

There be fates, I'm sure someone will hit lv60 within 3 days if they give ya quick flying mount access and can access areas/flying and such without doing the MSQ (well enough to start flying)

Someone gonna be 60 like 10 hours after launch I bet.

[Buffy]

Was there anything in the prelims stating you couldn't get exp for 51+ from old ARR leves?

I don't recall leves, but dungeons were specifically mentioned I think.

[Gulkeeva]

Someone gonna be 60 like 10 hours after launch I bet.

Well if SE cock blocking the flying as mentioned earlier, it'll probably take at least 4-5 days for the first Lv60, then after that 1-2 days per character depending on how much... flying you need to do from place to place to get to a fate.

Many people got all lv 50's within a monthish back in 2.0 (Dow+dom) through the fate spam grind so I'm expecting about the same for Lv 50->60 through fates very quickly also. Although they could of upped dungeon EXP a ton so it sort of matches fate exping... or nerfed fate exp a ton to match dungeon exp... ya never know with them SE ninja nerfs.

[Voyage1970]

They also made mention of large-scale levequest type things in the patch notes so they might be a way to exp with an alliance or full party. They mentioned it taking 10 leve allowances to retry if you fail so I would assume the reward would be scaled accordingly. Plus they mentioned different grades of the new Hunt marks and how they reward exp as well now. Really there was a bunch of vague stuff in the notes about exping that we can't really know about until Friday.

[Gokulo]

They also made mention of large-scale levequest type things in the patch notes so they might be a way to exp with an alliance or full party.

Unless something more was mentioned during the reading, patch notes do not mention anything about them being large-scale or otherwise.

[Gulkeeva]

They also made mention of large-scale levequest type things in the patch notes so they might be a way to exp with an alliance or full party. They mentioned it taking 10 leve allowances to retry if you fail so I would assume the reward would be scaled accordingly. Plus they mentioned different grades of the new Hunt marks and how they reward exp as well now. Really there was a bunch of vague stuff in the notes about exping that we can't really know about until Friday.

Yeah we'll have to see. The main appeal for fates was that you could do multiple of them at once and get gold reward with little effort. Its how people lvled nin from lv 1-> 50 within a day almost zerging fates.

[Black]

Probably will take one day maybe less for lvl60

Me and 3 friends Gona lvl for 24hr skipping cs and all

Hopefully we can get it

[Voyage1970]

Unless something more was mentioned during the reading, patch notes do not mention anything about them being large-scale or otherwise.

[3.0] Players can now undertake "Temple Leves," a new form of guildleves, in new areas.
As with the regular guildleves, players can select from battlecraft leves, fieldcraft leves, and tradecraft leves. Furthermore, players may undertake large-scale levequests which require ten leve allowances. While much more difficult than normal levequests, they offer far greater experience points and rewards.

It specifically calls them Large-scale levequests.

[Gokulo]

Me be blind

[Azull]

I don't recall leves, but dungeons were specifically mentioned I think.

I think this is only the case if you use the No Cap / Incomplete party option.

[solracht]

I think this is only the case if you use the No Cap / Incomplete party option.

Level50 duties don't reward exp normally.

However, players who do not use duty roulette to join level 50 duties associated with the above roulettes will not receive experience points.

[Azull]

Well damn.

[Toth]

Since there are lvl 50 quests, I wonder if you need to do them to start leveling past 50.

Also now that enochain is 56, I wonder if it has any additional effects besides fire 4 and blizzard 4 casting....

[Gokulo]

Since there are lvl 50 quests, I wonder if you need to do them to start leveling past 50.

They said there will be no limit break quest so I doubt that.

[kisada]

are the temple leves meant to be for PT's?