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    Pardon my prior numbers, I'm special in the head apparently.

    Asuran Greatshield - Kite - 21% Blocked

    Hive Scutum - Tower - 28% Blocked

    So a solid 7% difference. Forced blocks with Sheltron and Bulwark don't affect anything but chance, but I'm still not sure if it's worth losing the passive block chance. I took hits just long enough to get annoyed during Hive Scutum testing before I popped Bulwark. Still, the difference is more significant than I thought (I have no idea where I remembered 25% from), which is both good and annoying all at once in terms of shields. The basics here say the forced and increased blocks (Sheltron, every 30s if you remember it, and Bulwark, 15s of increased block chance every 180s) are definitely worth it on the towers, but does the inclusion of a periodic block outweigh Kite?

    Edit: I do have SS evidence, but 7 posts, so I'll just go cry in the corner for now.
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    If you give the SS source, someone can post them for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ismenian View Post
    Pardon my prior numbers, I'm special in the head apparently.

    Asuran Greatshield - Kite - 21% Blocked

    Hive Scutum - Tower - 28% Blocked

    So a solid 7% difference. Forced blocks with Sheltron and Bulwark don't affect anything but chance, but I'm still not sure if it's worth losing the passive block chance. I took hits just long enough to get annoyed during Hive Scutum testing before I popped Bulwark. Still, the difference is more significant than I thought (I have no idea where I remembered 25% from), which is both good and annoying all at once in terms of shields. The basics here say the forced and increased blocks (Sheltron, every 30s if you remember it, and Bulwark, 15s of increased block chance every 180s) are definitely worth it on the towers, but does the inclusion of a periodic block outweigh Kite?

    Edit: I do have SS evidence, but 7 posts, so I'll just go cry in the corner for now.

    25% was probably factoring in the base increase from STR it used to have.
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    For reference: PLD at 50 with dreadwyrm shield blocks for 30% with the changes.
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    Also block for 30% at 50 with that Titanium kite shield. But at 54 when I could equip it I only blocked for 24% and at 56 now it only blocks for 20%.
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    First with the Hive Scutum (Tower, i190, Block Str 533), second with (as shown) Asuran Greatshield (Kite, i180, Block Str 322). Also WOO image privledges.
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    Finished my melds ~3.5mil total and worth every penny since I don't have to do hunts for i180s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Finished my melds ~3.5mil total and worth every penny since I don't have to do hunts for i180s.

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    Hoping for you that Alex + new tombstone won't make you regret that decision
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Hoping for you that Alex + new tombstone won't make you regret that decision
    At 3.5mil nothing can make me regret it lol. Even if they are replaced in 2 weeks I have the worst RNG luck ever and can't bank on anything from Alex. With tomes i'll do left side first so that's 6-8 weeks before accessories.

    The only way they aren't a steal is if i160+ hybrids become available with normal Alex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Finished my melds ~3.5mil total and worth every penny since I don't have to do hunts for i180s.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5098390/
    I'm hesitant to meld because I fear they will add new crafted Acc's in 3.1 <,<
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    How fun is PLD 3.0 compared to 2.0? I might level it next, after a little break, got burned out a bit after SCH + AST to 60 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    How fun is PLD 3.0 compared to 2.0? I might level it next, after a little break, got burned out a bit after SCH + AST to 60 lol
    The extra combo options add some variety, and I'm loving clemency (but I'm a former XI PLD so I like to heal people while tanking)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    At 3.5mil nothing can make me regret it lol. Even if they are replaced in 2 weeks I have the worst RNG luck ever and can't bank on anything from Alex. With tomes i'll do left side first so that's 6-8 weeks before accessories.

    The only way they aren't a steal is if i160+ hybrids become available with normal Alex.
    I was gonna say you could have probably saved some gil using Fending accessories with good secondaries melded with STR but the STR/VIT on accessories doesn't even out until the 180 level for some reason, and STR materia gives less STR than VIT materia gives VIT, so you would get less from the melds.

    It's a very odd trend:
    0-i139 -----> VIT>STR
    i142 -------> VIT=STR
    i145-i170 --> STR>VIT
    i180 -------> VIT=STR

    Wonder if it's gonna keep bobbing back and forth or if they're just gonna stay equal i180+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    At 3.5mil nothing can make me regret it lol. Even if they are replaced in 2 weeks I have the worst RNG luck ever and can't bank on anything from Alex. With tomes i'll do left side first so that's 6-8 weeks before accessories.

    The only way they aren't a steal is if i160+ hybrids become available with normal Alex.
    3.5mil is a steal. Did you farm/craft the acc? I have MIN/GSM 50+ so I can probably just farm/craft them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustave View Post
    3.5mil is a steal. Did you farm/craft the acc? I have MIN/GSM 50+ so I can probably just farm/craft them.
    My raidmate made them for me, he has all crafts at 60. Materia is extremely cheap right now since nobody is using any.

    If they add new craftables in 3.1 everyone will have to deal with V material to meld correctly, which won't be fun or cheap. Nobody seems to be on the i150 hybrid trend so get them while they are cheap.



    PLD is fun at 60. I haven't found a use for Clemency or Divine Veil yet. I use Clemency sometimes when soloing if I pick up too many mobs but in a raid setting I'm always slower then my healers. Divine veil is too gimmicky IMO. They won't build a raid element around it since WAR/DRK don't have anything similar.

    The new combos are good and interesting. They are large DPS increases over Halone but do not have the enmity of Halone. I find myself stance dancing less because of them and am still getting a feel for their use. ex. Do I swap to sword and be forced to use Halone or do I just stand in shield oath and spam Royal.

    Shield swipe is very effective for keeping hate and managing TP. Sheltron just makes it all easier. The MP regen is very nice for mass pulls as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    My raidmate made them for me, he has all crafts at 60. Materia is extremely cheap right now since nobody is using any.

    If they add new craftables in 3.1 everyone will have to deal with V material to meld correctly, which won't be fun or cheap. Nobody seems to be on the i150 hybrid trend so get them while they are cheap.
    I'm on backwater Jenova for now so crafter market is 300-400%. I'll finish off GSM and make them.
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    Just gonna say, even if they make i160 it won't be that much better.

    If anything you will need better melds/t5 materia to fill it out. This is basically like using Ruby in 2.5(?) instead of Platinum. You're a little inferior, yeah, but not by that much for what you spend.

    And as discussed, i150meld is already beating projected i200 accessories in any combination except max DPS (full STR, no VIT).

    In fact I am pretty sure they will, for a long time, not add i160 accessories solely because the lack of doing so makes it impossible to put T5 on them which makes them forever a little short on secondaries. Even right now the only meldable i160 in the game is a green crafted body.
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    Also it's noteworthy that crafted accessories are back to having 2 secondaries instead of 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Also it's noteworthy that crafted accessories are back to having 2 secondaries instead of 1.

    Yeah i forgot to mention that. I'm sitting at 550 SS but haven't tested it yet. Hoping for 11 GCD between gorings.
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    Also Taint, you think we'll -need- extra accuracy on those accs? I notice you didn't cheap out on melds.
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