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    I'm pretty sure DRG's are the lolDRG's of FFXIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    I'm pretty sure DRG's are the lolDRG's of FFXIV.
    This

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    oh, good. I'm glad someone is lower than us on the totem pole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    As a SMN (and former bard)
    if you have a DPSing healer, or a SMN or BLM (or all of them for that matter), Foe is your, and their friend most of the time outside of the palace (as Shaano pointed out, in the palace you're more likely to cause a wipe than a win on the normal floors)
    or DRK

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    Does foe do anything for any brd skills, or is it purely for others?

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    Do songs still decrease damage for bard or did they get rid of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Do songs still decrease damage for bard or did they get rid of that?
    Foe's doesn't and never did. iirc they reduced the damage decrease from singing manasong/tpsong

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    Foe's doesn't and never did. iirc they reduced the damage decrease from singing manasong/tpsong
    Yes, from 20% down to 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrrfect View Post
    Does foe do anything for any brd skills, or is it purely for others?
    Helping others helps you too! ...but no srsly, nothing for brd skills.

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    Might as well sing anyways because you MP is just sitting there doin nothing

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    I pretty much only use Foe's. IDK if I'm doing it wrong, but no one ever complains... to my face, anyway. I'm still a baby tho; level 53 and mostly running pugs in Duty Finder. I have a hard time grasping when, if ever, the extra mana/tp is worth the decrease in damage.

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    Manasong is for recently rezzed healers.
    TPsong is for melees & tanks that run out of TP during raids (is that even still a thing in 3.x?), and prolonged AOE spam for physical jobs.

    That's well over 99% of usage cases. The rest of your MP should be spent on max Foe uptime.

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    ah, excellent advice. thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    Manasong is for recently rezzed healers.
    TPsong is for melees & tanks that run out of TP during raids (is that even still a thing in 3.x?), and prolonged AOE spam for physical jobs.

    That's well over 99% of usage cases. The rest of your MP should be spent on max Foe uptime.
    Creator savage has its aoe moments. More likely than not to be asked for at least some paeon in A9S.

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    I was referring to the 2.x dynamic of single-target physical DPS running at net negative TP.
    Not sure if that was fixed in 3.x (I switched to MCH who runs WAY net positive).

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    Granted, I'm a turbocasual with bad gear with too much SS, but I'll easily start running out on DRG and to a lesser extent MNK if overall DPS is low in dungeons or a fight has near 100% uptime like A9.

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    I don't think TP song gets played much - maybe if you don't have a nin and your Monk/War/PLD are using fracture. I could be wrong though, as a BLM I don't pay much attention to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    I don't think TP song gets played much - maybe if you don't have a nin and your Monk/War/PLD are using fracture. I could be wrong though, as a BLM I don't pay much attention to it.
    Depending on how fast / slow a9s goes, melees can get some TP problems, because of the aoe spam. But that's p much the only one, other fights have long breaks for recovery.

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    Just got Wanderer's Minuet and Empyreal Arrow. I can see why people complained about the shift in playstyle, but holy hell I am loving it. I feel like this is the class Bard was meant to be all along. <3

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    What's good BRD dps? Like, not balls-to-the-wall best-gear-ever endgame-raiding ultimate DPS, but pretty good, i245, duty finder DPS?

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