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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketch View Post
    I MT floor 4 as Paladin. Our strat is both tanks take all the orbs during the first and last phase.

    Is it safe to say that during discoid, I as MT should not even try to take any orbs? We were having a little argument about this last night. Our WAR OT was finding difficulty getting all 6.

    -Pat
    An i180+ DPS can take two without heals, and throw a Second Wind between them as a safety net. The orbs do about 5,000 each and I have 12,800 HP as DRG, with Second Wind usually recovering ~2,300. I could almost take 3 of them.

    That may be an option for you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Fuck everyone here for not getting a mean girls reference lol.
    I got it, and was going to make an image for it. but fuck it. tired.

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    There is a thing in A4 where one of the legs will start venting steam and it loses it's stun resistance briefly. I tried stunning it once but I'm not sure what if anything happened. It might be during/after adds but I only noticed it once.

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    This new loot system can right fuck off. Two nights of Alexander and haven't won a single drop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    This new loot system can right fuck off. Two nights of Alexander and haven't won a single drop...
    As opposed to a full run of coil with no -insert your job- drops?

    I agree it's cumbersome and certainly far from perfect but I think I would rather this than experiencing 4 week dry spells and watching dupes the entire team has drop to the floor.

    On the other hand, the old loot system let me deck out 2 jobs faster than most people could finish 1. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    There is a thing in A4 where one of the legs will start venting steam and it loses it's stun resistance briefly. I tried stunning it once but I'm not sure what if anything happened. It might be during/after adds but I only noticed it once.
    One leg will steam right before the DPS buster random laser attack... but stunning it doesn't actually seem to do anything at all. Maybe it reduces the damage slightly but I don't pay enough attention to notice. I hate to call "bug" on a mechanic we don't understand but... possible bug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    As opposed to a full run of coil with no -insert your job- drops?

    I agree it's cumbersome and certainly far from perfect but I think I would rather this than experiencing 4 week dry spells and watching dupes the entire team has drop to the floor.
    The problem isn't in it being cumbersome, it's the psychological effect of seeing the drop you want and losing lot on it multiple times.

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    Get in a group that agrees to do 4 runs. That way you're guaranteed a drop.

    Now if you're looking for something specific, you could still get screwed -- but honestly, Savage will be doable at i180 (plus you will be able to get Esoterics), so there's no reason really at this point to not just grab whatever drops and fill in the gaps later.

    I've finished three pieces already (feet and 2x accessories). If I get Crank x2 I can finish Hands as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    The problem isn't in it being cumbersome, it's the psychological effect of seeing the drop you want and losing lot on it multiple times.
    Your problem isn't the system, then, is not playing in a static, because what you describe still happened in Coil when not in a group of orgainzed people with an established loot distribution.

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    Yeah I'm a little pissed at my static right now because our 2 healers and 1 dps aren't even i170 yet to enter Alex :/ or else we would just spam and get drops, instead we are going in with 4-6 people and the randoms keep beating me :/

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    Wish I played on Hyperion so we could be Destiny and XIV buddies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    Wish I played on Hyperion so we could be Destiny and XIV buddies!
    I know right, all of us Destiny buds should move to the same server

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    An i180+ DPS can take two without heals, and throw a Second Wind between them as a safety net. The orbs do about 5,000 each and I have 12,800 HP as DRG, with Second Wind usually recovering ~2,300. I could almost take 3 of them.

    That may be an option for you guys.
    do the majority of the groups have dps help with orbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketch View Post
    do the majority of the groups have dps help with orbs?
    I've heard it mentioned, and I generally help out a bit. There are 0 phases in that fight that are DPS checks so there's no reason not to, if it seems to help.

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    Our healers and OT take most of the orbs in the final phase. We treat it like T13 and people just call out whats close to them.

    I'm sure these balls will be a bigger deal in Savage when they give a stack or something.


    During the leg phase MT takes the orbs near the right leg, OT left leg and healers/dps anything in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    Wish I played on Hyperion so we could be Destiny and XIV buddies!
    Kaslo and I are on Hyp; do work son

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    Get in a group that agrees to do 4 runs. That way you're guaranteed a drop.

    Now if you're looking for something specific, you could still get screwed -- but honestly, Savage will be doable at i180 (plus you will be able to get Esoterics), so there's no reason really at this point to not just grab whatever drops and fill in the gaps later.

    I've finished three pieces already (feet and 2x accessories). If I get Crank x2 I can finish Hands as well.

    15 A1 win with same group FEET WON'T DROP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketch View Post
    do the majority of the groups have dps help with orbs?
    Everyone helps with them based on proximity (and remaining HP), basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    15 A1 win with same group FEET WON'T DROP
    I would have ditched the group after win #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skai View Post
    In the first phase of F4, you can't really tell when the Manipulator (unless there's an audio/visual cue I missed or someone knows what move comes before it) will abduct someone until you can focus target it after a leg dies. Once you can focus target the Manipulator, healers can throw a Regen or two on the OT when it uses Emergency Whatever before he/she gets taken.
    You can see all of the Manipulator's actions in the chat log so you can set up filters to show only enemy actions. (Or make a trigger)

    As for orbs, what I was doing with my group was basically treating them sorta like Earthshakers. Ranged dps would just stay in the path of the orbs and get healed in between each hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthia View Post
    I would have ditched the group after win #4
    After so many bad group, at least I had a winning group so i stayed.

    Got my pedal after 6th A1 win today

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