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  1. #21
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    Alright, instead of taking actual combinations, I guess we need to start figuring out what kinds of augments are available and where the caps are for each. I wonder if it's still possible to hit the "cap" for all three types of stones, just that it's more likely with a specific? I dunno, we'll have to wait and see if a +40 MAB Taupe augment comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    He had to have, or no Pet: Augments would have appeared, as far as I know.
    Well I was asking because what if it was really pet and master and the order got all messed up. Just a theory but you know SE.... just seems odd since a single augment of 1 type is making a lot of these BiS getting it 2 or maybe 3 times would be insane. Another thought is it can do multiple rolls of anything including a stat already gotten but there is an overall augment cap based on stone. So like for mab whether you do it with 1 or 3 different mab augments the max will still be 40?

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    I think rolls can miss. Sometimes I end up with only 1 augment, sometimes with a low value. Maybe mab/macc is +35 on non pell stones? Might be worth writing an addon to automatically upload augments somewhere. Doing it manually sucks.

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    Confirming the current theory for Valorous:

    Pellucid = acc/attack can cap at 38(probably 40) instead of 30 with others.
    Fern = special augment like ws dmg/stp/DA caps higher. Example: ws dmg when using fern caps at 5% instead of 3% with others. Caps I've seen: DT- 3%, STP +8, SC dmg +6%, DA +5, Enmity +5, Crit. dmg +4%.
    Taupe = stats cap at 15(or more?) instead of 10 with the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Well I was asking because what if it was really pet and master and the order got all messed up. Just a theory but you know SE.... just seems odd since a single augment of 1 type is making a lot of these BiS getting it 2 or maybe 3 times would be insane. Another thought is it can do multiple rolls of anything including a stat already gotten but there is an overall augment cap based on stone. So like for mab whether you do it with 1 or 3 different mab augments the max will still be 40?
    They were with Fern Familiar path. Reposting from FFXIAH:

    Nether Blast (naked): 1145
    Nether Blast (wearing only Merlinic): 1507
    Nether Blast (waring only NQ Apogee A): 1437

    With 20/20 Magic Damage JP (+100), 19/20 BP Damage JP (+57), MAB +40 from Diabolos's BLM levels, MAB +23 from first 3 Gifts, MAB +10 from merits, MAB +20 from base Merlinic, MAB +21 from "first" augment, MAB +3 from "second" augment, and BP Damage +5% from base Merlinic that gives
    (((99+2)*5)+100+57))*2.17*1.05 = 1508.367

    If the "first" augment was for the master and not the pet, that would give us
    (((99+2)*5)+100+57))*1.96*1.05 = 1362.396

    If the "second" augment was for the master and not the pet, that would give us
    (((99+2)*5)+100+57))*2.14*1.05 = 1487.514


    I'm leaning towards "it rolls twice and is supposed to combine the 2 rolls, but didn't for some reason."

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    Adding some more pet observations on Valorous Mask because everyone keeps outlotting me on other stuff. ;;

    Using Fern:

    Pet: DEX+7, Acc/Racc+13, Atk/Ratk+12, STP+5
    Pet: INT+6, ATK/Ratk+25, Subtle Blow+7
    DA+2, Pet: INT+8, Acc/Racc+15
    Pet: INT+8, Macc+6, PDT-4%, Acc/Racc+8
    Pet: INT+2, Atk/Ratk+6, DA+3
    Pet: DEX+8, Acc/Racc+22, DA+1
    Pet: Acc/Racc+3, Atk/Ratk+14, STP+6
    DA+2, Pet: Macc+18, Atk/Ratk+6
    DA+2, Pet: STR+8, Acc/Racc+12, Atk/Ratk+8
    DA+1, Pet: VIT+7, Macc+22, Atk/Ratk+14
    Pet: DEX+1, Macc+18, Atk/Ratk+13, DA+4
    Pet: STR+7, Macc+7, PDT-4%, Acc/Racc+3, Atk/Ratk+5 (got one of those triple rolls)
    Pet: Acc/Racc+13, Atk/Ratk+15, DA/Crit Rate +2 (I think DA/Crit is a separate augment from just DA, I've never seen Crit by itself)
    Pet: VIT+6, Acc/Racc+7, Atk/Ratk+15, DA/Crit Rate +1
    Pet: INT+1, Acc/Racc+10, DA/Crit Rate +1
    Pet: STR+3, Acc/Racc+27, Regen+2

    Pellucid Stones:
    Pet: DEX+9, Acc/Racc+30, STP+2
    Pet: Macc+10, Regen+1
    STP+5, Pet: Acc/Racc+4, Atk/Ratk+8, MAB+4
    Pet: DEX+7, Haste+2%, Acc/Racc+1, Atk/Ratk+25
    STP+4, Pet: Atk/Ratk+6, MAB+16
    Pet: STR+8, PDT-3%, MAB+21
    Pet: Macc+29, Atk/Ratk+11, DA+1
    Pet: PDT-1%, Acc/Racc+7
    DA+3, Pet: Acc/Racc+1, MAB+5
    Pet: STR+6, Haste+1%, Acc/Racc+4, MAB+23
    Pet: Macc+9, STP+7
    DA+3, Pet: Atk/Ratk+2, MAB+25
    Pet: PDT-1%, Acc/Racc+17

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    Herculean Trousers (all Magic path):

    Pellucid

    MAB+25
    Macc+1 MAB+14
    MAB+4 WSD+1
    atk+5 macc+7 MAB+8 WSD+2%
    macc+6 MAB+6 DA+4
    INT+4 MAcc+15 MAB+20 MBDmg+1%
    Macc+15 MAB+6 STP+4
    STR+7 Macc+12 MAB+7 Crit rate +1%
    STR+1 Macc+6 MAB+1
    MND+2 Macc+6 MAB+6
    STR+1 Macc+1 MAB+1 Enmity-2

    Fern
    STR+10 Macc+16 MAB+13 DA+2
    STR+9 MAB+24 Crit Rate +1%
    INT+9 Crit hit damage +1%

    Taupe
    INT+10 Macc+11 MAB+11 DA+1
    STR+14 MAcc+10 MAB+6 STP+5
    STR+10 Acc+14 Macc+10 MAB+7
    STR+10 MAB+18 WSD+1%
    INT+7 MAB+2
    INT+15 MAB+23 WSD+2%
    STR+9 MAcc+1 MAB+11 Crit Damage +2%
    INT+7 MAcc+11 MAB+1 WSD+3%
    INT+9 MAcc+9 MAB+24 WSD+2%
    INT+14 MAB+3 STP+5
    INT+14 MAcc+3 MAB+3
    INT+5 MAB+13
    STR+2 MAcc+25 MAB+4
    MND+12 Macc+8 MAB+5 Crit damage +1%
    STR+14 Atk+24 Macc+14 MAB+13
    STR+11 Acc+3 MAB+10
    MND+8 MAcc+24 MAB+5 Magic burst dmg +1%

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    Spammed hundreds of stones on Herculean Gloves melee

    Highest counter I saw was +5
    Crit hit rate +5
    Crit hit dmg +5
    Triple attack +4
    PDT -5%
    DT -2%
    Dual Wield +6
    Waltz potency +11%
    MDT -5%
    WSD+3%
    STP +6

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    Yeah I should probably just record highest values. Will start doing that for each now.

    Can you keep track of which stones you got highest on each, btw? I want to see if stone is just favoring a section or if it actually increases possible cap.

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    Fern was all of the above, minus pdt/mdt/dt. Which I think was Taupe

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    Also had 19 acc 15 vit, but swapped it for the one in the pic

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    Magic Accuracy +34
    Magic Atk. Bonus +36

    best I got so far (Pellucid: Magic)

    Some other ones:
    Macc+10, Matt+22, Magic Damage +11

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    http://oi63.tinypic.com/34ss1ax.jpg

    Also had one with Accuracy and Ranged accuracy both at +25 but there was no boost to attack on that augment.

    Also im LOVING the REGAIN on this headpiece.

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    Anyone know if you can get Pet: TP Bonus on Digirbalag WAR / BST axe? If so, it might beat the Skirmish axe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldue View Post
    http://oi63.tinypic.com/34ss1ax.jpg



    Also had one with Accuracy and Ranged accuracy both at +25 but there was no boost to attack on that augment.

    Also im LOVING the REGAIN on this headpiece.
    Yeah, you'll generally see a loot of dual-augs with identical values on the pet side of Valorous; Atk/Ratk, Acc/Racc, DA/Crit Rate (though there's a separate roll for JUST DA as I've gotten it alone but never Crit alone). Get some nice combos in there. The Regain isn't all that special sadly, being only 20/tick; it'd take 50 ticks, or 2:30 to get a total of 1 WS. Still, every bit helps, I suppose.

    Edit: @JohnB - We don't really have any weapon data yet.

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    From what I'm seeing with Herculean, the "trait" values (like Triple Attack, WSD, etc) are the same values as they appear on Alluvion armor, but with a Fern Stone, those caps go up by 2 for the most part (a few oddballs like Waltz Potency seem to go higher).

    Seen Accuracy and Attack as high as 35 on Taupe and Fern, but I haven't used many Pellucids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post


    Also had 19 acc 15 vit, but swapped it for the one in the pic
    i have gotten Fast Cast +5 (melee augment) on theese (which makes it Fast cast +10)
    Attack and accuracy can go up to 40 each
    DA can go up to 5
    have seen -PDT, Cure potency, cure pot recieved, -DT, WSDMG, WSaccuracy, -MDT, Enmity+, Store TP+
    havent seen any Triple Attack tough (yet)

    had a strange occurance where i got 30 MAB with a melee augment ¬.¬

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    Not even close to what their maximum values are, but shows the potential.

    http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...3566019d55.jpg

    http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...3566019d90.jpg

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    Best I've gotten on Merlinic Crackows is Mnd+9, Macc +3, MAB+28, Magic Burst Damage +9%, using a Pellucid stone. Other augs I've seen are fast cast up to +7, magic crit dmg +8%, conserve mp up to +6, occult acumen up to +8, and magic damage up to +11. Saw stat values up to 15 using taupe, and also saw str and dex augs despite magic path, but were less common. More common than I would have expected though.

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