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    that's an easy solution. leave str on left side gear make tank damage fully vit based and bring back str effecting parry mitigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    It won't be this, as they have already mentioned. I think their main problem is that they don't want to remove STR from left side gear for whatever reason, so they will still make it somewhat meaningful. It may not be a 50/50 split, but it will be some sort of split. We can be sure that the main stat will be VIT everywhere else regardless.
    Pre-2.4 NIN gear has STR and DEX on it, as does most lowbie Aetherial gear; it didn't seem to make a difference.

    I guess we'll see.

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    Because DEX enhances attack power for NIN and STR does nothing but buff their parry, tooltips are neato.

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    And ninja shared their gear with monk pre 2.4

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    We were told that STR jewelry will be "less effective." I've convinced myself this means "do nothing" as this technically meets the definition of the Japanese.

    We all know SE can't fix anything when they fix anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    Because DEX enhances attack power for NIN and STR does nothing but buff their parry, tooltips are neato.
    Quote Originally Posted by KCem View Post
    And ninja shared their gear with monk pre 2.4
    The point is that SE had no problem including "extraneous" stats on NIN gear (after all, they could have put NIN on pre-2.4 BRD gear), so including extraneous stats on tank gear is not a radical departure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    Not so. Healers are by far the dominant role on my server, to the point where it is nearly impossible to get into a PF group as healer unless you're starting it. Same thing with Diadem groups when they were popular - healer filled up fastest 90% of the time. It may be different on other servers, but I swear healers went from "just about enough" to "WAY too many" since about a month after HW released. I'm not sure what caused it - there still aren't that many AST on my server just from what I could tell - but man are the healers everywhere. Noticeably.
    Positional DPS happened. Too much work to keep up max DPS. Much easier to stand still and push buttons like the good ol' days. I agree, to a point, that SE has gone crazy with rotational, but my beef has more to do with the constraints of the engine of the game than positional attacks themselves.

    Tanks also have to "lead" the party in terms of pulling and maintaining control of the packs, and for some, that's too stressful a position to be in, even if its just running ahead and overpowering twice.

    Thus, the third option is healer.

    Edit: I'm probably very late, but eat me. I pop in every now and then. <3

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    Pre-2.4 NIN gear has STR and DEX on it, as does most lowbie Aetherial gear; it didn't seem to make a difference.

    I guess we'll see.
    To be fair, that was only so that they didn't spend resources to create all new sets for ROG/NIN from i50 to i110 (Yoshi-P mentioned this a while before 2.4 dropped actually).

    STR was never meant to have any meaningful effect on NIN, they just slapped DEX onto gear like the Fuma, [High] Allagan, and Gloam sets, tied the Attack Bonus to DEX across the board and called it a day. Much like the speculation before NIN was introduced, SE can tie an attribute stat to whatever they please (be it attack, parry, block, etc) -- after the most recent Live Letter, we can also assume that there can be mixed attributes allocated to a stat as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    The point is that SE had no problem including "extraneous" stats on NIN gear (after all, they could have put NIN on pre-2.4 BRD gear), so including extraneous stats on tank gear is not a radical departure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    We were told that STR jewelry will be "less effective." I've convinced myself this means "do nothing" as this technically meets the definition of the Japanese.

    We all know SE can't fix anything when they fix anything.
    This may also be true and perfectly within the realm of possibility. They could also do some weird shit and make STR only effect auto-attacks, or whatever they please. My point is that, we can't discount the fact that "less effective" can also mean that it will serve some other purpose aside from parry. At least they made it clear that STR will no longer be the go to stat for DPS.

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    Neither STR or DEX have effected parry since 3.0 btw (noticed parry relation mentioned a few times).

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    Pack it up folks. We're done till 3.2, I hope titfillia doesn't survive :3

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    I'm surprised they're reintroducing Minfilia already. I'd have guessed Yda and Papalymo based on the latest MS teaser but I guess we're getting the whole crew back. She did have the most mysterious disappearance after all.
    She better have some actual powers though, let her kick some ass already.

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    a p. sweet dude
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    My only hope is that her new outfit is somehow sluttier than the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    My only hope is that her new outfit is somehow sluttier than the last.
    It's the same outfit, but just torn and tattered from the battle in the tunnel. Also soaking wet.

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    Not sure why Minfilia is surprising so many people, if you talk to Krile after 3.1 she mentions she's discovered a way to find Minfilia.

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    Everybody skips the cutscenes Rocl, just accept it.

    also I like her new look, definitely different

    Spoiler: show

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Not sure why Minfilia is surprising so many people, if you talk to Krile after 3.1 she mentions she's discovered a way to find Minfilia.
    I think it's more people were hoping they'd get rid of them, since technically they are still some of the remnants of the 1.0 design team and Yoshi seemed adamant on getting rid of everything from 1.0. I'd be more surprised if she's not absolutely useless now that we have to deal with her again for the next 20 or so updates this game lasts. Idk though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Everybody skips the cutscenes Rocl, just accept it.

    also I like her new look, definitely different

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    I didn't think it was possible to make a design that was that bland and milquetoast.
    SE full of surprises.

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    I kinda like the outfit. Dunno if I like her hair style though.

    Are there any pictures of Yda and Papalymo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Not sure why Minfilia is surprising so many people, if you talk to Krile after 3.1 she mentions she's discovered a way to find Minfilia.
    Yeah but I figured they'd stretch it a bit more. The cutscenes showed Yda and Papalymo in Little Ala Mhigo so I assumed our next patch would be all about them.

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