February 2016 Version Update - Discussion & Findings

**Fwahm** · 2016-02-10 01:11

I'm not noticing any higher damage than normal on mobs I wasn't attack capped on before the update, so it looks like you need to go beyond 2.25 cRatio to get higher damage than pre-patch.

**Martel** · 2016-02-10 01:13

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

Between Clubs(Raphael's Rod) and Daggers (Centovente), it's a static 4.25 (upper and lower pDIF limits converge) at the cap (*1~1.05 randomizer). I bet this is true of everything.

Also, there is no special cap for WSs (as there used to be for BPs).

Hmmm. Maybe check for a difference on 2handed weps?(or just weapons with a much higher DMG value) If it's not that, then I dunno what they were on about.

**dasva** · 2016-02-10 01:17

Originally Posted by Martel

Hmmm. Maybe check for a difference on 2handed weps?(or just weapons with a much higher DMG value) If it's not that, then I dunno what they were on about.

They probably just meant max possible dmg. ie a 200 dmg weapon cap do more than a 100 dmg weapon just cause more base dmg

**Byrthnoth** · 2016-02-10 01:21

It does depend on weapon type:

Spoiler: show

So Great Sword at least has higher pDIF caps than club/dagger (although I only did like 10 hits with Raphael's rod and didn't record them).

Edit: Added Ukon, which is the same as Ragnarok. I bet that it's just 2H (3.75 cap) vs. 1H (3.25 cap) vs. ranged (3.5 cap)
Edit2: Added Divinity, which was the same as Taming Sari. Going with the above.

**dasva** · 2016-02-10 01:23

So auto melee dmg is all kinds of weird. Like crit melee hits I was getting 574-600. Regular melee hits 573-593. It's like crits do nothing at all

**Byrthnoth** · 2016-02-10 01:32

Originally Posted by dasva

So auto melee dmg is all kinds of weird. Like crit melee hits I was getting 574-600. Regular melee hits 573-593. It's like crits do nothing at all

This is normal behavior for pets. The only difference between normal melee and crit hits for BST pets and avatars is their crit attack boost.

**Ihina** · 2016-02-10 01:36

Nevermind all this.

Relic aftermath duration is dependent on tp, so 1500 will give a longer duration than 1000. That's why I kept getting weird durations like 1:00, 1:10 and 1:20.

If I had to guess, I'd say

1000tp = 60 seconds (for sure)
2000tp = 120 seconds
3000tp = 180 seconds (for sure)

Afterglow duration is still 30 seconds.

You can overwrite a higher level aftermath with a lower level aftermath, at least for relics.

**dasva** · 2016-02-10 01:49

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

This is normal behavior for pets. The only difference between normal melee and crit hits for BST pets and avatars is their crit attack boost.

Does that count moves too? Cause complete eyeballing but string shredder has always seemed to do about as good as bone splitter even on easy stuff despite having lower stat mod and low dmg stat according to SE... also seemed to vary more at least at low tp

edit: Also feels really weird to have 3 crit rate attachments...

**Kensagaku** · 2016-02-10 01:50

LSmate just finished his Sandung to R15. Final bonuses are Acc+50, Crit rate +5%, TA+3, according to him.

**Yeager** · 2016-02-10 02:00

Originally Posted by Kensagaku

LSmate just finished his Sandung to R15. Final bonuses are Acc+50, Crit rate +5%, TA+3, according to him.

That's...... not bad at all.

**Byrthnoth** · 2016-02-10 02:05

Upgraded Mythics still only have WS damage +30%.

Spoiler: show

**Snprphnx** · 2016-02-10 02:05

Yes. There is only one path to the JSE weapons. SE stated this earlier.

**Atomic Skull** · 2016-02-10 02:21

Originally Posted by Ihina

So

Mandau aftermath gets +5 crit damage, in addition to the already +5 crit hit rate.
Twashtar aftermath gets occ x3 damage instead of x2.

Really SE? really?

really?

I bet the aftermath is still like 20 seconds too.

**Bigsyke** · 2016-02-10 02:29

Originally Posted by Atomic Skull

Really SE? really?

really?

I bet the aftermath is still like 20 seconds too.

I think Apocalypse users have more of right to complain this time. ; ;

Anyone checked to see if it is still gear haste? (probably is)

**Atomic Skull** · 2016-02-10 02:30

Originally Posted by Yeager

That's...... not bad at all.

I still would not be caught dead offhanding that over a Jugo +1/

**Drkstrish** · 2016-02-10 02:32

JSE dagger at rank 15 gives +50 acc, 5crit and 3 triple attack.

Arktoi at rank 10 is + 35 acc pet: +35 acc and 20 atk

**Atomic Skull** · 2016-02-10 02:33

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

Upgraded Mythics still only have WS damage +30%.

Spoiler: show

Yes but the aftermath wasn't touched on mythics either so that may not be the case on relics.

**Yeager** · 2016-02-10 02:51

Terpander augments = fail I traded a couple of Boulders just to see (curiosity)

Save your boulders

HP, Mag. Acc., and -DT are the augments

**Bigsyke** · 2016-02-10 02:58

Mimesis: Acc/Macc/Magic Damage (26/26/40 at rank 7)

Ohtas: Acc/Pet:Acc/Pet:Haste (46/46/7% at rank 9)

**Yeager** · 2016-02-10 02:59

Kaladana (BLM JSE Staff) augments

Rank 1 - Mag. Accuracy +8, Magic Damage +2, Fast Cast +1

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