The Feast

[Kipling]

I ran with a MRD + SCH with me on SMN at all times. So we were doing the ass blasting, but it definitely made people mad enough to not queue anymore.

[Marcicus]

already predicting the same trends for WD are gonna transfer over to the feast in which case PLD/NIN/xxx/xxx
is going to be the ideal comp. Haven't decided whether or not WHM or AST is taking the 3rd spot.

[kisada]

ninja was never best melee in WD though

[Kipling]

Probably AST due to instant heals. And I assume SMN for the ranged spot.

[Kaiyoko]

Does NIN require positional in PvP for TA to work or is that just PvE?

[fluffmode]

I think you are vastly underestimating the hardcore pvp crowd, just looking at the same players for months in seal rock you can see lots of small pockets of pre-mades or full on teams. Pre patch there is lots of people stating groups/LSes in anticipation for feast but todays news killed it.

And you can still queue as a group of friends. You just don't get rewards for getting carried.

[Marcicus]

ninja was never best melee in WD though

perhaps in terms of raw dps that has merit, but never being the best, that's actually just not true, if you looked at some of the trends on the JP data centers, you would have noticed the metagame switch from hyper offensive setups to more control based comps, and those 2 jobs I stated before were present in a lot of WD runs


and ya you still need to follow PvE rules for TA

[Deathbringer]

Does NIN require positional in PvP for TA to work or is that just PvE?

Still positional

[Eldelphia]

Went in solo on SMN, had a lot of fun. Only 3 matches so far but a lot of people trying it out right now. When things settle down I'll probably get my butt kicked but I'll be looking for people to team up with. Doing well on damage

[kisada]

perhaps in terms of raw dps that has merit, but never being the best, that's actually just not true, if you looked at some of the trends on the JP data centers, you would have noticed the metagame switch from hyper offensive setups to more control based comps, and those 2 jobs I stated before were present in a lot of WD runs


and ya you still need to follow PvE rules for TA

so jp are the best without a doubt then you are saying?

[Eanae]

This just means you can't be carried by your team / buy wins or whatever. Sounds like another classic case of git gud from Yoshi.

It's not about carrying / being carried. It's about making progress with friends. You said you'll queue with people in down time periods. Are you saying you prefer there being no rewards for group play? If you are I just disagree. At the least it should have been top 1/10/100 from each separate ladder.

[Spider-Dan]

My understanding of rank is that it is only influenced by solo queue results, but who you are matched up against in full 4v4 queue is determined by your rank. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

[kisada]

It's not about carrying / being carried. It's about making progress with friends. You said you'll queue with people in down time periods. Are you saying you prefer there being no rewards for group play? If you are I just disagree. At the least it should have been top 1/10/100 from each separate ladder.

pretty much this

[jamesfk]

And you can still queue as a group of friends. You just don't get rewards for getting carried.

Are you just bitter you have no friends? This mode is for premades only, so you cant even cry about premades wrecking you, the complaint is about no point to do it, you know its actually a good thing for people like you, it keeps the better pvpers in a different queue.......

[Kipling]

And you said I was getting passive aggressive, lmao

Making an argument against getting stomped by trio-queues?! guess you ain't got any friends nigga, get the fuck out

[fluffmode]

Are you just bitter you have no friends? This mode is for premades only, so you cant even cry about premades wrecking you, the complaint is about no point to do it, you know its actually a good thing for people like you, it keeps the better pvpers in a different queue.......

I have no friends that eat breathe and sleep PvP in a PvE game, no. The only bitter ones here are the ones that need friends to do well. So enjoy your "better" queue friend.

[Eanae]

And you said I was getting passive aggressive, lmao

Making an argument against getting stomped by trio-queues?! guess you ain't got any friends nigga, get the fuck out

Do you even have any idea how a dynamic queue is actually supposed to work? Because how SE implemented it for Wolve's Den was not a good implementation. Games like HoTS/LoL/SCII work the match maker to always attempt to match similar groups together. (3+1 vs 3+1 or maybe 3+1 vs 2+2) Some of the better systems even prevent a solo queued player from ever being matched vs people queued in groups of say higher than 2 (worst case of 1+1+1+1 vs 2+1+1). You're making arguments based off SE's previous bad implementation vs what a proper dynamic queue would do.

[Kipling]

So you're arguing based off of a system that doesn't exist in the game and I am basing my posts on the one we actually have? Okay then.

[Marcicus]

so jp are the best without a doubt then you are saying?

they're better than their NA counterparts, they were better at Ballista, they're better than us at this, yes. Regardless I'd bet money that the trend followed through other DCs too.

[jamesfk]

I have no friends that eat breathe and sleep PvP in a PvE game, no. The only bitter ones here are the ones that need friends to do well. So enjoy your "better" queue friend.

No one needs friends to do well, Id gladly put my solo record against yours. Im guessing you raid with total randoms every time too? should get off that high horse bud.