PC Build Advice/Review II: 3090 or Bust.

[Arkanna]

Cinebench, Handbrake, some MOBA, and Sniper Elite 4 benches with prices.

I should rephrase: I still need to see benchmarks I completely trust (as in, those from the neutral hardware reviews sites that I've come to trust). I've no doubt that Ryzen is competitive.

[Kalmado]

I should rephrase: I still need to see benchmarks I completely trust (as in, those from the neutral hardware reviews sites that I've come to trust). I've no doubt that Ryzen is competitive.

Yeah once Anandtech has at least one I'll be happy. I subscribed to JayZTwoCents and even though he's an EVGA homer I don't feel he is an Intel/Nvidia shill. I'd also take Linus info over say [H]ardForum.

[Krandor]

Linus has a video out, tho nothing too in depth atm

[Jamison]

Somehow in the last 48 hours I talked myself into either a 1700 or 1700x and am getting pretty excited about it -- my last AMD chip was an Athlon XP 2800+. I think what finally sold me was the promise of a much longer upgrade path compared to Intel, even *if* the performance is a half-notch down from an i7. I'm thinking for my day-to-day activities the extra cores will outweigh Intel's higher frequency.

[Kalmado]

Somehow in the last 48 hours I talked myself into either a 1700 or 1700x and am getting pretty excited about it -- my last AMD chip was an Athlon XP 2800+. I think what finally sold me was the promise of a much longer upgrade path compared to Intel, even *if* the performance is a half-notch down from an i7. I'm thinking for my day-to-day activities the extra cores will outweigh Intel's higher frequency.

This is my thought for building a new pc in the winter. I currently have a 4690k that is at 4.3GHz without breaking a sweat on an AIO cooler and I can do anything I want just fine. But, for the price and value of what that 1700 gives...I most likely wouldn't need to upgrade for 5+ years and the 1700 is an easy excuse for me to finally move to DDR4.

[orinthia]

Wonder how cheap their lower end models will be, their performance vs i3/atom, and igpu stuff. Could see some good competition in the tiny pc market if the 65w 8core model is any indication. Been wanting something tiny to replace my 6 year old laptop as my everyday pc since my gaming pc is too power hungry and hot to keep on all the time. Just wasn't really feeling it with all the janky atom core minis from china or lesser celeron, overpriced nucs; want that 8-16gb ram on something modern.

I just hope oems actually use the damn chips.

add: also, my hotbox main is only 2 years old: i7 4790k w/290x, it's just not old enough to start looking to upgrade I feel (it doesn't overheat, temps are fine but it just heats up so much air). I'm not getting a 4k screen anytime soon; my 32" 1080 samsung tv is just fine from 5ft away. If there's any hardware change it'd be gfx card lol (I got it at a great price and rebate at the time). Still, amd hype for once in like a decade.

[Gryffes]

Yeah once Anandtech has at least one I'll be happy. I subscribed to JayZTwoCents and even though he's an EVGA homer I don't feel he is an Intel/Nvidia shill. I'd also take Linus info over say [H]ardForum.

Since Anand left anandtech it's turned into a much crappier site. Linus is generally solid but a bit of an nvidia tit sometimes.

Will be nice to see realworld gaming benchmarks though.

[Boyiee]

The thing with that pricepoint is the benches don't have to be incredible or really that close at all, as long as they are decent they will dominate the dollar to performance ratio which will be fantastic for most builders from casual and new up to quite a high margin.

[Hellfury]

I should rephrase: I still need to see benchmarks I completely trust (as in, those from the neutral hardware reviews sites that I've come to trust). I've no doubt that Ryzen is competitive.

Feb. 28th is the "ok go ahead and tell them now" date from what I understand, until then it's all (glorious) leaks etc.

The thing with that pricepoint is the benches don't have to be incredible or really that close at all, as long as they are decent they will dominate the dollar to performance ratio which will be fantastic for most builders from casual and new up to quite a high margin.

couple of leaks

1800x http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800...re-benchmarks/
1700x http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-processor-tested/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...cinebench_r15/
(as mentioned earlier, until the 28th, this is all unclear)

The benchmarks are incredible.

(disclaimer: wccftech is a bit of a gossip/rumours etc. site so should be taken with a pinch of salt)

[Bardicrune]

Has there been any word as to the instruction sets the new processors will support? AES-NI is a big one for the healthcare sector where everything has to be encrypted.

edit: nevermind. I answered my own question. Per wikipedia, the Zen architecture chips do support AES-NI at least.

[Jamison]

Just preordered the 1700. A little nervous about it but some folks I trust are dropping hints that it could easily be the price/perf king with a lot of room to overclock.

[Gryffes]

Just preordered the 1700. A little nervous about it but some folks I trust are dropping hints that it could easily be the price/perf king with a lot of room to overclock.

It won't overclock that much, but price/perf for 8core workloads it'll be the best.
As for gaming it obviously won't be crap, but until we see real world benchmarks we just don't know.

[Krandor]

People can still game just fine on first Gen i5/7s, so I wouldn't be too worried even if the early (cherrypicked) benchmarks aren't entirely accurate.

[Gryffes]

People can still game just fine on first Gen i5/7s, so I wouldn't be too worried even if the early (cherrypicked) benchmarks aren't entirely accurate.

Agree.

I think a lot of streamers will invest in the 8 cores because quicksync and nvenc both produce shit quality, cpu encoding makes a world of difference to stream quality so if you can game+cpu encode with no frame issues then it'd be a huge plus.

[Salodin]

I really want to see mobo prices already, as well as prices on Ryzen 5.

[Hellfury]

It won't overclock that much, but price/perf for 8core workloads it'll be the best.
As for gaming it obviously won't be crap, but until we see real world benchmarks we just don't know.

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/
rumour site, but just for fun!

I really want to see mobo prices already, as well as prices on Ryzen 5.

assuming this link works (mb wise, not too many of them listed yet)
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...nid=5657491011

[Jamison]

And here's NewEgg:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...CH&isdeptsrh=1

No X370 mATX motherboards announced yet. I'm willing to wait a week or two to see if anything is announced, but otherwise I'm going with a Gigabyte Gaming 5 in a NZXT S340 Elite case.

Early leaks indicate that overclocking hits a ceiling based mostly on power delivery quality and VRM overheating. The $250 ASUS motherboard pushing a lot further, allegedly, than the $200 model. All of this unconfirmed of course.

Edit: also it is assumed the 6-core variants coming Q2 will have more room to overclock because of heat/TDP, but on the other hand the Ryzen Master software for overclocking appears to have a feature of disabling cores which should allow a higher push as well. When the NDA lifts there's going to be a TON to sort through.

[Salodin]

Oh wait, ryzen 5 isn't launching March 2nd?

[Jamison]

Oh wait, ryzen 5 isn't launching March 2nd?

No date as far as I've seen, just Q2, so that's April-June somewhere...

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processor...s-Soon-Q2-2017

[Salodin]

Fuck that noise...