PC Build Advice/Review II: 3090 or Bust.

[Hellfury]

Ohhh! That's promising. I was thinking I'd be paying around $1500 (Canadian), but if the prices drop by around May~June, then all the better!

Well, unless AMD bombs, prices should start dropping pretty quickly. Intel has been enjoying a virtual monopoly on the upper-mid/hedt segment for close to a decade now after AMD missed the mark on Bulldozer, and Intel has milked that for all it's worth and then some.
(AMD went for a heavily multithreaded solution that was nice for some very specific tasks, but had very low IPC [instructions per clock/cycle], but low single core performance, and fell behind Intel brutally.

in the gossip section:
Intel has recently let leak that they're planning to cut prices, and they're introducing a slightly stronger quad core processor, and that the next tier of 8xxx processors are coming towards the end of the year. So speculation is that they are concerned that AMD has some heavy hitters coming.
WCCFtech is a "gossip" site, so take this article (and the ones it links to, with a pinch or two of salt) http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800...re-benchmarks/

The X series of the new AMD processors has something they call xfr, in essence, the processor will overclock itself (beyond just turbo mode) as long as it has the thermal operating conditions that support it assuming you put it on a motherboard that supports it (the x370- and X300-series I think it was)

We'll start getting the serious details in 1-2 weeks anyway, but I am a little excited, it is time for Intels monopoly to take a hit, they have been milking people, and especially the HEDT segment brutally because they can for a long while.

[Shenrien]

You could get a i7 6700k for 250 the other week from certain retailers because of the 7700k being released which is basically a hotter running 6700k unless you delid.

[Valisk]

Not sure what thread this should go in, but does anyone have a spare Windows 10 Home Product Key? None of the Youtube ones work for me.

[orinthia]

The keys cost money, you're not gonna randomly find a working key online for win10 that a hundred-thousand other dorks haven't seen and tried. You can buy one for cheaper than retail through a grey market gamekey selling site, which is usually sourced from scrapped office pcs that have working keys attached. I've gotten a couple this way, it works but be weary of the website hosting the seller and don't use your real credit card (your bank might have the ability to generate temporary card numbers with limits for such use, i know bank of america has this with shopsafe); was like $20 a pop or so last year, seller sent me pictures of the actual tags w/keys. You could also use a program to fool windows into thinking it is legit without ever having a real key, but that isn't something that is linkable here as it's obviously pirating. You're welcome to get your pc trashed by possible viruses or ransomed attempting to find the right one (not impossible, but it won't be the first link you try), or some nice swimmer here could link it to you.

[Kalmado]

Not sure what thread this should go in, but does anyone have a spare Windows 10 Home Product Key? None of the Youtube ones work for me.

https://www.howtogeek.com/272201/all...s-10-for-free/

Above link has a link for getting W10 for free still as long as you have W7/8 installed. All I'm going to say is I've done the upgrade numerous times using methods and have never had an issue.

[Zetanio]

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/20...d-ryzen-price/

Welp.

[Kalmado]

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/20...d-ryzen-price/

Welp.

Been busy around the house to post about this. Ryzen probably deserves it's own thread. Price to performance they just murdered Intel's current offerings. I'm extremely curious about the 6c/12t models because that's probably where most people are looking to buy.

[Krandor]

Damn that pricing on the top end CPU is crazy.

And lol @ stock cooler having RGB

[Zetanio]

Kinda shows how Intel was dominating the market so hard. Serious margins.

[haroldsaxon]

Need a thread so we can pay our respects to Intel (RIP) and hail our new AMD overlords

[Zetanio]

For 10 minutes until Intel cuts their prices to match or beat.

[Kalmado]

Damn that pricing on the top end CPU is crazy.

And lol @ stock cooler having RGB

That pricing for such performance, even though I don't need it has me considering saving until winter for my next rebuild. I should be getting a R9 295x2 tomorrow and am heavily considering doing my first custom loop.

Kinda shows how Intel was dominating the market so hard. Serious margins.

You're not kidding. Can't blame Intel because business is business and they aren't a charity. AMD coming out this strong is good for the consumer.

Need a thread so we can pay our respects to Intel (RIP) and hail our new AMD overlords

I don't have time to dedicate to doing it today but if anyone else does one I'll sticky it so it doesn't get lost.

[Arkanna]

Still need to see real benchmarks but this is looking like a very strong product for AMD. Even if it doesn't fully match up with Intel's latest offerings on a pure per-core basis, I might be interested in building a Ryzen box just to give my support to AMD.

[Kalmado]

For 10 minutes until Intel cuts their prices to match or beat.

Honest question, do you really think they are going to cut the 6900k by $600 or more? Just my two cents but that wouldn't be a good look and a huge slap in the face to those that did purchase a 6900k.

[Kalmado]

Cinebench, Handbrake, some MOBA, and Sniper Elite 4 benches with prices.

[Zetanio]

Honest question, do you really think they are going to cut the 6900k by $600 or more? Just my two cents but that wouldn't be a good look and a huge slap in the face to those that did purchase a 6900k.

Yes. They aren't stupid. That's the price you pay for being on the front edge of things.

[Kalmado]

Well, if they do, good for the consumer!

[Zetanio]

Well, if they do, good for the consumer!

Exactly. Bad as AMD is in my opinion, they keep prices from spiraling too hard.

[Krandor]

Also, the 65W model is some crazy shit for an 8 core CPU. Could lead to some awesome stuff in the small form factor and laptop realms.

[Kalmado]

Exactly. Bad as AMD is in my opinion, they keep prices from spiraling too hard.

I recall you disliking AMD gpus because of high power, heat, etc, but also disliking processors?

Just for conversation sake I recently used a Sapphire RX 480 4GB and am borrowing my wife's Sapphire RX 460 2GB while waiting for the 295x2. Both run extremely cool and quiet. The 480 4GB ran Fallout 4 at 1440p, Ultra textures with around 15 mods at (guessing) 45-55fps depending on what was going on. Only a handful of times did I get some stutter which may have been mod related as I was having an issue with rain. The 460 2GB for 1080p is a price to performance monster. I purchased mine $60 after rebate and it will max older AAA titles. Heaven benched at 40.7fps average set on Ultra, no AA, tessellation off. Highest temp was 58c after running Heaven for around an hour. Extremely impressed.