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    Do you have a MicroCenter near you? Or another similar PC store?

    $1500 can get you a good PC, even with a monitor included.

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    This is my current "price/performance" gaming setup, minus monitor/keyboard/mouse ( most people tend to have em already and just need the case +components ) and assumes you have a win10 key or can get one easily enough.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wXbNwV

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    Can you follow directions from a YouTube video? If so, you can easily build it yourself.

    If you don't have monitors already, that's fine. You may overpay for a GPU right now but overall you can put a system together for grand pretty easily.

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    Or you could easily do like Tyven and just post here as you're doing it.

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    Does anyone on BG own a Ryzen build? That bundle actually shipped and RX 580's are going anywhere from $400-$650 so I'm probably keeping that 1700X. I'd love to hear from someone here about it's performance. I've read so many articles, posts, and watched videos where gaming wise it's not that far behind the 7700K. Only a few titles had the 7700K dominating.

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    I'm on a 1700. Generally pretty happy as I think most who went Ryzen are. Basically you are trading absolute top performance (fps in games and singled-threaded applications) for a much wider ability to multitask and higher minimum fps. Many feel that the cores from Ryzen (and the socket as well) give a longer lifespan to the platform compared to current Intel offerings. Also I've read that many people say gameplay feels smoother but they don't have measurements to back that up.

    Performance per dollar, etc, it's a very solid choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamison View Post
    I'm on a 1700. Generally pretty happy as I think most who went Ryzen are. Basically you are trading absolute top performance (fps in games and singled-threaded applications) for a much wider ability to multitask and higher minimum fps. Many feel that the cores from Ryzen (and the socket as well) give a longer lifespan to the platform compared to current Intel offerings. Also I've read that many people say gameplay feels smoother but they don't have measurements to back that up.

    Performance per dollar, etc, it's a very solid choice.
    That is what I've read many times. Many say the overall gaming experience is better even if it's a few fps lower. To be able to get a new 8c 16t processor for around $150 (from selling the 580), I think it would be wise to keep it.

    I just received my In Win 301 mATX tempered glass case and damn is it beautiful. I didn't look at the PSU measurements and it looks like mine is about 15mm too long. Oh well, new PSU time!

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    1700x here. Love it for everything I do. Haven't had a complaint yet.

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    "feeling smoother" may be the dumbest and worst thing I've ever heard.

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    Why?

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    Because it's a lame justification for having a worse product, it is not better and there is no feel. It performs less, there is nothing to feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    "feeling smoother" may be the dumbest and worst thing I've ever heard.
    "Smoother" can be shown with frame tearing, frame timing, and min/1% fps. Your experience will be far better when your monitor can sync fps to eliminate tearing (free/gsync), your vid card(s) has stable frame timing (xfire/sli used to have an issues with this over the years), and your min/1% fps is closer to the average (similar to timing, sucks if it's jumpy). You might have the highest average, but if those other things aren't in check then a config with a lower average fps but better mins/timings/sync'd would be "smoother."

    This is not to say you can't build to get everything though, you can always get there for a price, but it matters more if you're budgeted and want a better experience.

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    Ok, but this time do it with feeling.

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    From every review, benchmark, etc I've read or watched the 7700K absolutely is king for single threaded performance (majority of gaming). But the 8c 16t Ryzen chips outperform the 7700K in (if I remember right) everything else. For my specific situation it's about the fact I'm getting a $330 CPU for potentially $150. Now if I had to spend full price out of pocket, I would not even be considering the 1700X because of my budget.

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    Is there any evidence that Ryzen actually improves frame timing? If it did I feel like that shit would have parroted all over the PC related subreddits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Is there any evidence that Ryzen actually improves frame timing? If it did I feel like that shit would have parroted all over the PC related subreddits.
    I want to say I've read some threads from /r/AMD showing it, but I don't have a source or anything. From personal experience I can say this though. The FX-6300 compared to the G3258, the latter easily ran at a more consistent pace even though fps the 6300 wasn't that far behind. Then, comparing the FX-8320e (overclocked to 4.0+) would run just as smooth as the G3258 but could achieve higher fps. But compared to the 4690K (which is what I have), all lost in every aspect. I've been told that the R5 1600 would be a sidegrade for me. I'm mostly using the 1700X as an excuse to finally move to DDR4 and get rid of my full ATX tower.

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    Man my 45 fps Intel and Nvidia just feel better than your 45 fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Man my 45 fps Intel and Nvidia just feel better than your 45 fps.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwO2eRjsNlw
    Even with a cheap freesync monitor, it can make a bit of difference. This guy's vid highlights this difference using a 560 vs 1050, freesync vs none. Whether or not it's enough for you though is just, like, your opinion man, but there's no 'feeling' this when you can just see it not tearing vs tearing everywhere.

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    Screen tearing is not "feeling smoother"

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    Below is a good watch regarding what we're talking about. While it's sort of the same when Bulldozer came out (software needs to utilize the cores/threads to show the power of the CPU), it makes more sense as of today. I know the 7700K is the better buy for gaming as of right now. From what I've read and watched the thought is Ryzen is in it's infancy and will mature with time bringing a better gaming experience. Something the reviewers point to is the fact that Ryzen is going into consoles which will have game developers optimizing games for Ryzen. Oh, and I finally found the word I wanted instead of "smooth" because I know that's a terrible adjective to use. People said "micro stutter" was better on Ryzen vs Intel. Could be true. Could be placebo. I'd like to see for myself.



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