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  1. #141
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    Meh, guess it's 6-men only.
    I certainly wouldn't have cried for another alliance-aimed content after what, 2 years since lat time we received some? But in the end it would've been a bit anachronistic given the current focus of the game.

  2. #142
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    so uhhh... ES Lullaby or something?

  3. #143
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    It is also super weird that it's a 60-minute fight, but it is impossible to wipe. If you wipe, you are done since there is no way to get up without aggroing, from *any* side of the room.

  4. #144
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    Second alex/odin "attempt" (we are just testing things) :
    NT Horde Lullaby II got fully resisted.
    Avatar acc was perfect at 1300~1400 on Alex, I don't think the acc requirements are horribly high. Spinning Dive did 6~9k on Alex.
    Tank didn't touch Alex and I could dd it without taking the hate.
    Helmwige's -ra III nukes freaking hurts, 1200~1600 on PLD with -50% MDT, tank got killed when Odin did Ofnir at the same time for 1300~. Ofnir inflicts -50% Defense Down.

  5. #145
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    So this fight is pretty dependent on an Aegis, I'd guess?

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    So this fight is pretty dependent on an Aegis, I'd guess?
    in combination with burtgang i guess, or an epeolatry run.

  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachi View Post
    Second alex/odin "attempt" (we are just testing things) :
    NT Horde Lullaby II got fully resisted.
    Avatar acc was perfect at 1300~1400 on Alex, I don't think the acc requirements are horribly high. Spinning Dive did 6~9k on Alex.
    Tank didn't touch Alex and I could dd it without taking the hate.
    Helmwige's -ra III nukes freaking hurts, 1200~1600 on PLD with -50% MDT, tank got killed when Odin did Ofnir at the same time for 1300~. Ofnir inflicts -50% Defense Down.
    Is alex the only one that hate wouldn't change on? Wonder if full meva/macc buff/debuffs could get you to resist

  8. #148
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    There's also the option of kiting and taking them out one by one.

  9. #149
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    I wouldn't be surprised if they had some ridiculous movement speed.

  10. #150
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    The original ones had 75 or 100% movement speed, but we're still kiteable at 75 because half of them stopped to slowly cast stuff.

  11. #151
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    Given the difficulty, wouldn't it be insane if winning gives the KI spender a free relic / empy / mythic/ ergon mog koupan....

  12. #152
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    So um I think more trusts might be more fucked up then previously thought... just went thru 2 VD AAGKs and normally my trusts die fairly quickly between dragonfall and Boss heart using firagaing and hitting the wyvern and another one buffing him. But 2 fights and both of them survived all the way thru... do a quick check thru the logs and sure enough as far as I can tell they evade EVERY melee hit from the wyvern and breaths were doing sub 50 dmg while my 50ish dt autos take around 300. Dragonfall still wrecked them though so I'd assume all or at least AoE tp moves still wreck them. Also they are actually managing to reliably hit AAGK on vd with me at ilvl 117. In fact a quick check makes it look like they have 100% acc.... shit is actually screwing me up by messing up my autos skillchains

    And keep in mind the alter ego campaign doesn't start till Friday

    edit: given that really low breath dmg I'm guessing they auto capping meva too and that was a full resist and they probably having auto capped magic hit rate as well but haven't tested that yet. Plus their AIs are such they just wont try on harder stuff anyways

    Edit 2: went killing a few more things with aoe magic stuff and again consistently taking less dmg than my a little over player cap dt autos most of the time but did manage to finally see one of them take full dmg of about twice that of my autos. So yeah definitely thinking just capped magic evade rate or something

  13. #153
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    Can someone please explain to me how this Reisenjima campaign affects anything?

  14. #154
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    Basically, you get normal boss loots in your personal spoils pool occasionally, instead of just stones. Its basically worthless to anyone that already has what they want from mobs.

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    I meant, does it drop directly to inventory? If that's the case, campaign is busted right now as I'm not getting anything - and drops from pool are same as ever

  16. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistrianna View Post
    Basically, you get normal boss loots in your personal spoils pool occasionally, instead of just stones. Its basically worthless to anyone that already has what they want from mobs.
    You actually already could get loot in your personal spoils it's just rarer. According to the notes it sounds like just another slot possibly guaranteed for personal. Probably similar to HTBF but with chance of cool stuff like gear

  17. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    I meant, does it drop directly to inventory? If that's the case, campaign is busted right now as I'm not getting anything - and drops from pool are same as ever
    Yes. When you kill NM it will say what drops in the pool and then separate message that you obtained whatever that goes straight to invent similar to HTBF

  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Yes. When you kill NM it will say what drops in the pool and then separate message that you obtained whatever that goes straight to invent similar to HTBF
    Then yeah, we've killed ~10 and gotten nothing other than treasure pool. Safe to say it's bugged. Probably the major reason for patch then?

  19. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    Then yeah, we've killed ~10 and gotten nothing other than treasure pool. Safe to say it's bugged. Probably the major reason for patch then?
    That or Ambuscade nm being unkillable. Or people with KIs being unable to enter. Or all the people getting randomly rolled back several weeks out of no where. Or our trusts being absolutely broken. Take your pick

  20. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    Then yeah, we've killed ~10 and gotten nothing other than treasure pool. Safe to say it's bugged. Probably the major reason for patch then?
    I think it works like Spoils, and it just replaces the stones with gear.

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