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I love gates (pretty much all RPGs and MMOs utilized them) I just didn't like the way HW did it..since it pushes you OUT of the zone and no reason to truly return to it unless you enjoy FATEs and the odd "revisit" in later zones like Hinterlands due to Matoya's Cave.

Like if when all is said and zone and Azy LLia was an end-game zone with content connected to it (similar to Proto-Ultima that isn't a FATE but some kind of actual content) it would have been cool. That and these 2 optional dungeons (AquaDeep) seem like wasted potential but it'll be a fun distraction from the 450/week tome grind.

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

Everything in ARR revolves around a rigid structure so it's no surprise you can't do anything to get off the monorail.

I mean, every aspect of the game is basically a straight line. From the dungeons, to the raids, to the skill rotation down to the vertical progression. XIV is a direct answer to XI's huge flaws in horizontal progression becoming a balancing nightmare.

Except for the fact that I had quite a bit of fun on Monk in 2.0 killing stuff a couple of levels above me. Or dying to those mobs...
3.0 felt like: No, you can't do that anymore, that's too dangerous!

Originally Posted by Destinye

I love gates (pretty much all RPGs and MMOs utilized them) I just didn't like the way HW did it..since it pushes you OUT of the zone and no reason to truly return to it unless you enjoy FATEs and the odd "revisit" in later zones like Hinterlands due to Matoya's Cave.

Like if when all is said and zone and Azy LLia was an end-game zone with content connected to it (similar to Proto-Ultima that isn't a FATE but some kind of actual content) it would have been cool. That and these 2 optional dungeons (AquaDeep) seem like wasted potential but it'll be a fun distraction from the 450/week tome grind.

Actually, to be fair, they did open new quests for the older zones at later levels which was pretty cool. Once you gained the ability to fly in each zone, there were really high level mobs around that were way above your level that you could try on.

Originally Posted by Alisha

part of the problem is that in a real theme park you visit it maybe once a year not everyday. and it seems like instead of trying to address this they are more focus on bringing in new players than keeping what they have.

also PSO2 is NOT a good game. it's like waiting at a bus stop for an emergency quest to come.

Funnily enough, when you know the schedule of EQs it's much like any other MMO these days: Do your Daily/Featured stuff/Bonus Quests and depending on playtime you're already likely about to hit an EQ since they tend to be fairly frequent unless it's usually around major updates/EQ shifts that it tends to slow down, otherwise they're spaced out enough unless you do nothing but play it all day good chance you're going to be running 2 EQs a day if your play time is in chunks. Least it always lines up that way for me (For example today was Yamato at 7am PDT > Yamato 7pm PDT) and in between I'm doing my daily money makers.

I prefer that to being done with XIV content for an entire week after playing for 7 hours on reset day, if FATEs were a bit more dynamic like PSO2's "Emergency Code: (insert)" especially on higher difficulties, the zones would have more variety to it. I'd take a random Proto-Ultima or hell even "Darnus's Ghost" or something spawning in Hinterlands to break up the monotony.

I feel that's what they partially tried to do with hunts but..the system itself was bleh. For as unbalanced as XI was, the overworld content systems were a nice addition (Voidwatch/walker/UC/Monstrosity etc) which I know XIV has the capability of doing or should anyway, since an MMO designed in the late 90s shouldn't have superior systems/capabilities to an MMO designed and released in 2013..especially it being 3 years later after making all that money; Even taking into consideration the 1.x legacy code they likely have to work with.

Originally Posted by Silenka

I miss Beseiged.

Besieged was the shit.

XIV could easily copy it wholesale and it would be awesome. It's not even a difficult thing to implement (aside from having to create an Al Zhabi-esque zone for any city they'd want to do it in but that could be done with assets they already have) and wouldn't require much balancing, which we know the devs are bad at/allergic to. Just have a metric fuckton of dragons and shit rush the special zone in Ishgard once in a while with the objective of not losing X object situated in the city. It would be interesting (and therefore xiv team will never do it) if it was something that made the overworld mobs stronger if they managed to acquire it.

I played on Siren, the server that famously never lost a single Beseiged for many years. But it was close once, like really close. The doors to the Candesence were open and the Lamia and Trolls were simultaneously attacking the blockade of bodies players set up in front of the doors. We had to fight super hard to win that time. It was an adrenaline rush, and it's something I'll never forget because it felt so epic and fun, and our server pride, our winning streak was at stake. Everyone banded together in solidarity to defend the Candesence but also something more important than that.

XIV could use some content like that.

This right here. I always loved seige-like events games just for the chaos that happens. And they could expand on it a bit more to give DOL/DOH roles to help gather/process supplies for better NPC equipment/fortifications

Hell, it could make FATEs interesting too if done right.

Sounds fun. I agree that Ishgard would have been the perfect place for it too

something something Yoshida interviews something

Originally Posted by Slycer

something something Yoshida interviews something

The beacon is lit!

Originally Posted by Slycer

something something Yoshida interviews something

I'm about two thirds through the Famitsu one. Something I thought worth posting now - the new Moogle quests will have tier V crafting materia available as rewards in later stages. I don't know whether gathering is included in that, it's not specifically mentioned. He did mention that they are making adjustments for tier IV crafting and gathering materia to make them readily available.

Maybe this was already known, I haven't really been keeping up with the news.

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

Serious question, I see alot of people bitching about this game but continue playing

If the game is that boring to you just stop playing?

I play because my (equally-old, housebound, married with children) friends play. It is one of the few things we can do regularly to hang out together. It's easier for us to continue playing this game (which we all liked at least at some point) then to try to find a new game for us all to play.

I have talked to them too, and we all feel similarly; we aren't in love with XIV, but we want to continue playing together and there really isn't a better option. Short of FFXVII or World of Starcraft, I can't really even think of potential options for us to jump to.

Originally Posted by Niiro

This was exactly what Hamlet Defense in 1.0 was, right down to DoH/DoL participation (DoH gave buffs, DoL gave enfeebs).

It was instanced tho, but it was difficult enough to require a lot of strategy and planning.

I found Hamlet Defense to be as unbearably boring as Diadem and another perfect example of "interesting concept, terrible execution". I also don't know what to say about "strategy and planning". The common strategy that most people followed was the same for all hamlets and it came down to running around while the NPCs did most of the killing. Being able to influence the drops/score via provisioning was a cool concept, but good luck getting top 3 on an active server. In the end, for me the most difficult part of Hamlet as a DOH was not falling asleep.

The saddest part about Hamlet was how it gated other content which was actually interesting (the relic quest). So many people must've missed out because of that shitty step.