i sure hope so, i am not a fan of the billy = MiB theory, mostly because of the story-telling fuckery it would take
i sure hope so, i am not a fan of the billy = MiB theory, mostly because of the story-telling fuckery it would take
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I think it's
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I still have absolutely no fucking clue what is going on in this show, but I love it.
I think I am starting to see how the earlier fan theory fits right now
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This episode actually debunks that theory. When Logan is talking about the history of the park to Billy he references Arnold's death as having happened 30 years ago.
I am actually going back thru some of the episodes. I don't remember a time being said by logan but I will check it momentarily.
Edit: Just double checked. If it is the speech Logan gives when they arrive at the small town no timeline was given:
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he doesn't say 30 years ago, just that they are bleeding cash and their company looking to buy
Still, that definitely sounds like talking about ancient history to me. Also, the MiB says he saved the park with some cash. I don't get the sense Billy has enough cash to even make a dent in the worth of the park.
He said he is VP of something... and they're on a "business trip," where we saw the assumed CEO? of the company get dragged off by some robots... Maybe he just got promoted and does have a shit ton of money.
prob is a flashback, and logan dies and billy gets promoted to ceo or something, then builds his empire over the years, buys and frequents park and becomes mib. now he's dying with cancer or someshit and his final swansong is figuring out the maze.
The more episodes we're in to the show, the more I doubt it's in the past. For example, MiB said that they changed the way the hosts look; telling Teddy that he was so beautiful before they made them appear more human. In addition, they've also updated the hosts a lot more from back when they opened to h ave a lot more fluid movements and more convinving dialogue. The parts with William all look very modern and fluid to me.
Additionally, they didn't specifically say he died 30 years ago. More specifically, they stated he committed suicide in the park before the park even opened -- which is why almost no one outside of the people who worked there then knows about him due to the cover up.
Honestly I think it's a red herring. Everyone is expecting it so the plot twist will be that it isn't true.
Actually, we know exactly when he died. Ford asked Dolores when she was last in contact with Arnold, to which she responded "34 years, 42 days, 7 hours ago", to which Ford responds "Yes, the day Arnold died". So whether it was right before the park opened or before the park opened is technicalities, as that is the exact date he died.
We also know that Dolores have personally talked to Arnold on more than one occasion, so we do know that she's one of a few -- if not the only -- host still in service since then. We do know from before she's one of the oldest hosts, but now we know just how old. My guess is that Teddy and the head prostitute are the oldest after her, and have probably been in service since the park opened. The lumber jack I'm uncertain about, I kind of feel like he's a red herring and that MiB did something to him to try and find the maze and is not actually messed up in the same way the others are.
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Fucking funniest shit. I keep forgetting about these.
Spoilers for every ep.
Is it just me, or is this dude:
that Ford talks to every day probably an exact copy of Arnold, but cowboy'd up. Seems odd Ford personally checks on that one host all the damn time.
Also, I got my own theory about the MiB. I think he's a special kind of host that Ford is using to attempt to find this secret Arnold took with him to his grave. This time mumbo-jumbo kick ya'll are on is for the birds.
OK one thing with the timeline of the series.
More then likely, Ford has only talked to him down there once. What were seeing is the same conversation basically being shown in reverse (the part from Episode 5 leads directly to the one in Episode 1).
Ford going down there in Episode 1 set off a bunch of alarms, so it wouldn't make sense for him to keep going down there.
It's hard to look past it when you have scenes where Delores is all alone, and then William and Logan suddenly are in the same scene. Or in reverse, where they are there, and suddenly she is alone. It could be that there is only one timeline and what we perceive to be the present (where Delores is alone retracing her steps) could actually be a memory of the past where she went off her loop alone for the first time and her adventure with Logan and William are happening in the present. There are many different ways that this could go to be honest, and again this is a Nolan production so there is always going to be some trickery going on.