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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    SCH in cleric stance will not have access to bio 2, miasma or bio
    Doesn't SCH already have lowest DPS of all healers post 3.0?

    Crit adlo will no longer give a double potency shield
    ...why are you giving SCH hamfisted nerfs that don't really change anything? If you want an effective nerf, then start with the fairy, as that's the real engine behind why SCH will always be loved.

    Gause Barrel & Minuet will have reduced cast timers
    What does this mean? The cast timer is 4s now, and the last thing they need to encourage is tedious stance-dancing to min-max autoattacks. (presuming that mechanic even makes it to 4.x)

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    why nerf sch? why not just buff the other 2 healers

    they could make AST buffs matter more outside of bole:
    Make the spear cooldown buff retroactively take away recast time on all abilitys that were allready used and that will be used if the buff is still on
    Change skill/spell speed buff to occasionally doublecasting/Wsing twice
    make them all AoE and let card burning be potency enhancing, duration or additional effect+ (bole gives enhanced STR, -dmgtakene gives enhanced VIT, Skill speed buff gives enhanced MND, Regain gives enhanced DEX, MPRegain gives enhanced Piety, spear gives enhanced INT)
    well it prolly would break the game lulz


    Or just differentiate the Healers on their strength more:
    - SCH: fairy/best shielding/best Aoe Damage of healers, worst regens/pure HP cureing
    - AST: massive buffs/healing is between sch and whm for regen/cures/shielding, okeisch nukeing single target and Aoe
    - WHM: best single/aoe cures/best regen, highest single target DPS, shit on AoE DPsing and shielding.

    I am not saying AST is in a bad spot. but i would rather see them differentiate the healers alot more and see them rather buff whm or ast instead of nerfing sch

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    bole? did you mean balance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    Doesn't SCH already have lowest DPS of all healers post 3.0?
    I think that is AST. SCH and WHM can put out fairly similar numbers so difficult to say whom has the lower dps, just depends on the fight.

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    The joke wasn't even that good tho

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    It's funnier that people took it so seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    It's funnier that people took it so seriously.
    Tuned out literally after reading the first line. My B.

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    Delete fflogs

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    Yes pls. My A12S and A11S parses are god awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    It's funnier that people took it so seriously.
    to be fair with yoshida it could very well end up happening in some capacity.

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    Wondering if we're going to get an underwater research facility courtesy of the allagan.

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    pls to implement this idea with Undersea Palace aesthetic from Chrono Trigger kthx

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    So is the patch at the end of the month 3.5 Part 2/ pre-Stormblood? I thought they had it planned for March.

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    No one knows. The thinking is that it's 3.55 with 3.56 coming in March to wrap things up before Stormblood.

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    They said 3.55 would come in February and part 2 in March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    They said 3.55 would come in February and part 2 in March.
    Thanks you two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    why nerf sch? why not just buff the other 2 healers

    they could make AST buffs matter more outside of bole:
    Make the spear cooldown buff retroactively take away recast time on all abilitys that were allready used and that will be used if the buff is still on
    Change skill/spell speed buff to occasionally doublecasting/Wsing twice
    make them all AoE and let card burning be potency enhancing, duration or additional effect+ (bole gives enhanced STR, -dmgtakene gives enhanced VIT, Skill speed buff gives enhanced MND, Regain gives enhanced DEX, MPRegain gives enhanced Piety, spear gives enhanced INT)
    well it prolly would break the game lulz


    Or just differentiate the Healers on their strength more:
    - SCH: fairy/best shielding/best Aoe Damage of healers, worst regens/pure HP cureing
    - AST: massive buffs/healing is between sch and whm for regen/cures/shielding, okeisch nukeing single target and Aoe
    - WHM: best single/aoe cures/best regen, highest single target DPS, shit on AoE DPsing and shielding.

    I am not saying AST is in a bad spot. but i would rather see them differentiate the healers alot more and see them rather buff whm or ast instead of nerfing sch
    I know people get loss aversion but they have to nerf sch it's format warping. the fairy and indom are broke as shit. the goal of nerfs/buffs should be to make whm/ast more viable so sch doesn't have a stranglehold on 2nd healer spot. giving ast an analogue to fairy heals just so sch doesn't have to be nerfed is bad game design.

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    They might do some scaling to make the fairy less relevant (Like how early HW was) but I don't know if there's anything they could do without doing hardcore design tweaking.

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    Problem is job identity. Sch's entire identity is its fairy. If you make the fairy irrelevant or near irrelevant to the job, the attraction to the job for its identity is gone. It'd be like taking away cards from AST or..uh...benediction...? from WHM...? >_>;;

    They'll have to come up with some better way of balancing SCH. Or just leave it the way it always has been, whatever.

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