President Donald J. Trump: Orange is the New Black, House Slytherin Rises Also Heil Trump!

[Seha]

Being one is a disorder sure. But acting upon it(including pornography), not seeking help until it's too late, that makes you a criminal.

[kuronosan]

Easy to say when you are on the gang side.

Diehard Bernie supporter. Was ganged up on frequently.

If you have an indefensible position and can't provide a rational argument why your position is sound, you don't have a sound position and aren't contributing much to a conversation.

[kuronosan]

You're missing the point. "Latino" is NOT a race. They are mostly people of european descent, but a mixture of different cultures, just like the the United States.

You don't know what Latino means. Just stop.

[Heavencloud]

You don't know what Latino means. Just stop.

Teach me, oh wise one! The fuck dude, I thought you're a med student?

Neither "Hispanic" nor "Latino" refers to a race, as a person of Latino/Hispanic ethnicity can be of any race. Like non-Latinos, a Latino can be of any race or combination of races: White/Caucasian, Black/African American, Asian, Native American, Native Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander American, or two or more races. While Brazilian Americans are not included with Hispanics and Latinos in the government's census population reports, any Brazilian American can report as being Hispanic or Latino since Hispanic or Latino origin is, like race, a matter of self-identification.

[kuronosan]

Teach me, oh wise one! The fuck dude, I thought you're a med student?

I happen to be Hispanic.

Latino = of Latin American origin
Hispanic = of Spanish origin

By your definition, we're all middle eastern.

[Heavencloud]

I happen to be Hispanic.

Latino = of Latin American origin
Hispanic = of Spanish origin

By your definition, we're all middle eastern.

And how does that relate to what I said? Are you trying to say you're a race of your own as a hispanic person? It's like you progressives just want to find something to argue about or tell them to "stop talking." Good lord.

[kuronosan]

Hmmmm. You present an interesting point. I thought you were trying to equate Hispanic to Latino.

You were not. My apologies.

[tyven]

I happen to be Hispanic.

Latino = of Latin American origin
Hispanic = of Spanish origin

By your definition, we're all middle eastern.

you have to go back

[Fiye]

you have to go back

Are you saying we're all african brothers and sisters?

[Byrthnoth]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.810676c46d31

Good thing we didn't wait for the conclusive evidence that Pruitt is a mouthpiece of the fossil fuel industry and rammed his nomination through while it was only incredibly likely that he was.

[dasva]

Diehard Bernie supporter. Was ganged up on frequently.

If you have an indefensible position and can't provide a rational argument why your position is sound, you don't have a sound position and aren't contributing much to a conversation.

Again you are on left leaning forum. Your being "ganged up" was a tad different. There was a rather large amount of things you'd support Hillary for that you'd support Bernie for and vice versa. Most of the anti-Bernie flak was one some of the details or how effective he'd actually be or chances of winning or after awhile the idea that it was hurting the dems chance of winning. Plus there were quite a few Bernie supporters here. Hell some of the people ganging up actually supported him but didn't like his chances

The actual ideas and reason for support though were largely agreed upon to an extent. When it's completely different ways of looking at things and different ideologies it's way different. There are plenty of times someone on here not necessarily even directly about politics (though obviously that will have more disagreements) argues a less popular side here and can have large walls of text with good arguments which resulted in several people responding with quipping 1 liners or silence when you prove them wrong... until the next time. It's rather discouraging to say the least and many have expressed such sentiment. But of course that is futile because well look at your responses.

Seriously don't believe me walk a step in the other guys shoes. Spend some time in some kind of group that has political discussions a bit most of the members are right leaning. One with actual discussions not those crazy alt, meme, chan etc that obviously are only good for people watching. Even in the most civil of ones a solid liberal or heck even a centrist would be turned off after a time.

All that said specifically while the issue of Trump is pretty hard to defend possibly impossible people are going to be much less likely to try because 1) even fairly defensible things will get shouted down 2) there is just less able to be defended and those who still support Trump probably aren't the greatest in that regard. 3) Whatever hopes and wait and sees that people had have been kind of destroyed at this point and conversations will be colored by that/people that weren't completely against him that weren't completely irrational are probably pretty regretful right now. Either way asking for meaningful complete opposition discussion here is a pretty safe bet and easy way to claim de facto victory. If you want to really know what the other sides thoughts are on you need hop from your safe space to theirs

[6souls]

Woke party for 2020

[kuronosan]

I've sat down in discussions where my opinion was the minority.

I've had to be the guy that stays quiet because of that.

[Xantavia]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.810676c46d31

Good thing we didn't wait for the conclusive evidence that Pruitt is a mouthpiece of the fossil fuel industry and rammed his nomination through while it was only incredibly likely that he was.

Don't you love all the calls for "extreme vetting" of refugees wanting to come to the US, but when it comes to Trump's picks, it seems looking into their backgrounds is taboo?

[Fiye]

To be fair you don't even need to do extreme vetting to find skeletons

[Marootsoobutsu]

The problem with your post is you never bothered to look at the war from the slaves' perspective. Which I think many forget to do. The white people's idea of the war is not the only one that mattered.

I mean, I wasn't aiming to post a comprehensive text-book length document of all opinions and perspectives of what went on during the Civil War... in part because that wasn't the question.

The question was, "Why was the Civil War fought?" or "What was the cause of the Civil War?" In neither of those questions is the perspective of slaves relevant, not because their position in history is irrelevant, but because they had no power to enact the major social undertaking that is war, and for the first two years of it, even free blacks weren't allowed to fight in it. The very fact of their irrelevancy is of extreme importance to the conversation of national morality, and the fact that, while they lacked agency they yet possessed importance (however unrecognized at the time) as people is a very importance companion conversation to have with the causes of the Civil War. But it's not the same conversation.

[6souls]

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/02...oom-guidelines

Transgender bathroom guidance to be rescinded, Anti-Bullying safeguards to remain

[Fiye]

Zoner can eat shit. Pro LGBT my ass.

[Salodin]

People keep saying that people on BG are shutting down reasonably defensible positions of Trump, but where the fuck is that happening? If some one has a reasonable defense for even half of the things that Trump does that has made headlines, please by all means share them...with the country.

[Seha]

I've yet to hear a reasonable argument from the conservatives on this stupid bathroom debate. It's all about their paranoia.