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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    Forgive me for asking a potentially stupid question here, but I am stuck at work for a while longer.

    Do you mean to say that they added Proto Ultima as a mid boss in Dun Scaith? No prequest or anything like that, just another mid-boss with a drop you lot for? But with his own weekly lockout?
    No, they added him instead of a trash boss.

    Oh SE, you never fail to surprise and amaze me.

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    Wait wait.....Proto Ultima is in Dun Scaith? WTF??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Wait wait.....Proto Ultima is in Dun Scaith? WTF??
    Yeah he replaces the Maiden trash boss.

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    Which is good because he takes arguably less time to kill than she did because of her stupid flans.

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    couldn't they have at least given him his own trial arena/queue? even a FATE would've been better than this, jesus christ

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    So this drops chests now on that boss? Whats the 260 piece just another dun sparce armor piece?

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    I will say it... it's easier than either of the expert dungeon's final bosses.

    It's beyond disappointing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eleven19 View Post
    So this drops chests now on that boss? Whats the 260 piece just another dun sparce armor piece?
    No chest. The armor that you can exchange from the token is i150

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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    couldn't they have at least given him his own trial arena/queue? even a FATE would've been better than this, jesus christ
    This ^

    SE actually surprised me with how lazy they can be and I thought I'd seen it all by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    I will say it... it's easier than either of the expert dungeon's final bosses.

    It's beyond disappointing.



    No chest. The armor that you can exchange from the token is i150
    Oh so... Its literally a glamour piece. I thought someone was being silly lol. Whats it look like? Proto ultima-y?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleven19 View Post
    Oh so... Its literally a glamour piece. I thought someone was being silly lol. Whats it look like? Proto ultima-y?
    http://i.imgur.com/thOyhwB.png

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    ... Ick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    couldn't they have at least given him his own trial arena/queue? even a FATE would've been better than this, jesus christ
    There's a FATE one, he drops PURE glamour trade in parts. But I guess they have THAT MUCH FAITH in the diadem relaunch to get lazy with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    couldn't they have at least given him his own trial arena/queue? even a FATE would've been better than this, jesus christ
    If they did gave him his own arena, queue times would have been like 1h+ month or two from now due to it's nature of being 24man fight.

    The fight itself tho seems to have wayy too little hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eludi View Post
    If they did gave him his own arena, queue times would have been like 1h+ month or two from now due to it's nature of being 24man fight.

    The fight itself tho seems to have wayy too little hp.


    Yeah the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

    A true 24man trial would be a queue nightmare in the near future. It still doesn't do him Justice however.

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    They could have just as easily given this its own 8 man flavor for something like that, and with how fast he melts with 24... I think 8 would have been your standard 4-5minute primal fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Yeah the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

    A true 24man trial would be a queue nightmare in the near future. It still doesn't do him Justice however.
    Wonderous Tails already populates queues for outdated stuff, so something offering ilvl270 even going forward to 4.0 will still be relevant for quite some time much like your poetics shit lasted a good chunk of HW 3.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    Wonderous Tails already populates queues for outdated stuff, so something offering ilvl270 even going forward to 4.0 will still be relevant for quite some time much like your poetics shit lasted a good chunk of HW 3.0.

    I think the 8man (same fight) flavor would work for future WT. But a full fledged 24 man primal would need to be more worth while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    They could have just as easily given this its own 8 man flavor for something like that, and with how fast he melts with 24... I think 8 would have been your standard 4-5minute primal fight.
    Couldn't you just do regular Ultima then? >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eludi View Post
    If they did gave him his own arena, queue times would have been like 1h+ month or two from now due to it's nature of being 24man fight
    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    A true 24man trial would be a queue nightmare in the near future. It still doesn't do him Justice however.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    I think the 8man (same fight) flavor would work for future WT. But a full fledged 24 man primal would need to be more worth while.
    The fight rewards guaranteed max ilevel gear, what does it need beyond that? People still do weekly Dun Scaith/Mhach/VA for much worse time:reward ratios.

    Regardless, if they wanted to keep people queueing until the expac they could've:
    -Let people trade Ultima tokens for multiple crystalized sand/umbrites and other relic bs
    -Let the DF queue pop with fewer than 24 players if nobody is queued (similar to Frontlines), let premades enter with fewer than 24 players
    -Put it in WT

    In the end even if it did die within a couple months, I don't understand why that's suddenly a concern - that's about the shelf life for a lot of content in this game.

    The way they implemented this "trial" was just pure lazy bullshit and I don't know why they bothered. Even Odin was handled better and that trial was worthless too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hioki View Post
    Couldn't you just do regular Ultima then? >.>
    This is kind of my stance. This is already our 3rd Ultima fight. And from the feel of it, even if it was super cheese as far as difficulty goes, the mechanics weren't starkly different enough to warrant making another instanced battle against it.

    Frankly, I'm happy with a free, easy i270 accessory. Most of them are pretty good stat-wise too.

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