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  1. #21
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    I have a fair amount of FF13 relics but not the right ones it seems, CM seems impossible with the dispels and all the incoming damage. Did the D160 MP solo, was really annoying as well with the insta kill and dispelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerin View Post
    I have a fair amount of FF13 relics but not the right ones it seems, CM seems impossible with the dispels and all the incoming damage. Did the D160 MP solo, was really annoying as well with the insta kill and dispelling.
    my CM setup was

    Lightning 99 with LS + Dismissal (first BSB)
    Noel 80 with Ls and Protecga (BSB)
    Snow 80 with Pound and Banish Blade (no SB)
    Fang 99 with Dragoon Jump and Blood of the Wyvern (SSB)
    Vanille 99 with Ultra cure and Shellga (BSB)

    RW was shout.

    Was never threatened

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    For Apoc+, I would suggest using a def up SB like Ramza's BSB or Sabin/Angeal SSBs. My first setup I brought Lion with her burst and I was still having problems dealing with the damage output. Then I brought Angeal's SSB and that made a huge difference in survivability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    my CM setup was

    Lightning 99 with LS + Dismissal (first BSB)
    Noel 80 with Ls and Protecga (BSB)
    Snow 80 with Pound and Banish Blade (no SB)
    Fang 99 with Dragoon Jump and Blood of the Wyvern (SSB)
    Vanille 99 with Ultra cure and Shellga (BSB)

    RW was shout.

    Was never threatened
    Hmm, I forgot Lightning's first BSB had Dismissal. Alright, I'll try again later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerin View Post
    Hmm, I forgot Lightning's first BSB had Dismissal. Alright, I'll try again later today.
    Honestly i didnt even know my post meant i used the dissmissal abilitiy lol

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    It's good for me because one of the targets is to interrupt him. So that will help free up an ability slot.

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    Bart 2 was cake.

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    ok, what's the secret to keeping up with Proudclads damage? I have arguably the best team for it...

    99 Lighting BSB2, OSB
    99 Kain BSB
    99 Orlandau OSB
    99 Y'shtola BSB
    99 Tyro Sent Grim
    RW Shout

    ...but, as soon as he hits mode change, it's ALWAYS 5 Lazers to Y'shtola = The End.

    at least 8th time now. Always knows who my healer is. Even if she was alive though, there is no way she can keep up with this.

    Everything before was cake.

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    Defense gear and defense buffs, as the bits cant be targeted for breaks. If you have an extra 50-100% defense buff sb (i.e. bartz ssb1, snow ssb1, etc) that stacks with wall that helps quite a bit for reducing their damage.

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    Last stand isn't a bad idea either if you can instacast it and your damage carries are strong enough. You might get gibbed by proudclad after the bits but it gave me a ton of leeway on my run.

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    CM team was:

    Lightning: LS/Dismissal - BSB2/USB
    Cid Raines: Momento Mori/Wrath - BSB
    Vanille: Curaja/Shellga - SSB (Miracle Prayer or w/e)
    Sazh: FB/Power Breakdown - no SB
    Serah: Meteor/..I can't remember - SSB (Magic+Haste)

    RW Wall

    Cid did most of the damage since he was't resisted. Lightning did fine once USB/BSB2 hit.

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    well, out of suspicion, I moved Y'shtola out of the middle position, and she didn't get five-lasers-to-the-face and survived long enough to keep everyone else alive... one medal lost to damage.

    same group, and positions for Jump-start version = easy kill.

    it really only came down to how he decided to laser.

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    proudclad is an absolute bastard of a fight and it took me a billion tries but i finally managed to hack together a setup for mastery

    ashe: ixion/chain, ace/OSB
    yuna: curaja/protectga KP/BSB2 & USB
    OK: FBD/LS dr. mog/BSB & onion slice
    raines: PBD/wrath BLK+25%/BSB
    yshtola: curada/wrath mako/SS2 & BSB (unused)

    good lord i would've saved myself so much stress if i'd just thought to do double healer from the start, lol.

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    CM:
    Nothing too fancy. RW was OK BSB, Fang gave an extra mitigation layer even though he resisted the Wind/Fire of her reverse wall. Hope was the RW user so he could double on Dispel and Shellga duty, but he did finish the fight off with his OSB. Nothing fancy otherwise.

    Setup:
    Spoiler: show


    And then theres THIS asshole...

    Spoiler: show


    Went 0/infinity on him last night. Went 1/1 this just now. Multiple set-ups, multiple formations. Really just came down to turtling with HotE and Wall. Agrias OSB finished it off.

    Overtuned fight, absolutely. I understand the mechanic of looking at buffs this time vs debuff layers, but they really needed to tone down the weak stage AI.

    Now for the Jump Start attempts. Oh and MO, havn't gotten there yet. People seem to be having better luck doing this one offline.

    Edit: Jump Start done 1/1 with the same party, just swapped out Lifesiphon for Full Charge, Gaia Cross, etc.

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    the jump start version is infinitely easier since you're loaded with enough bars to drop it from the get-go. if you have an OSB that can cap or come close to it (much easier here since you can put damage up RMs on everyone), you're golden.

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    Jump start was waaaay easier than the A+ fight simply because you could just unload on him.

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    1/1 on both Jump Start and Apoc+. Even with Lion with BSB + ATK Command + Full Break + Protectga + Wall, his lasers and his attacks were fucking up tons of people, ending with both Lion and Y'shtola dying around 30%. Lightning BSB2 and Kain BSB destroyed him though.

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    Lion had BSB, Kain had BSB, Ramza had Shout, Lightning had BSB2, and Y'shtola had BSB, RW was Stoneskin II

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    Well by hit and running an annoyingly high amount I beat the CM. It still did a ridiculous amount of damage through ss2. And my only ST ssb (last resort) did a mere 32kish with enholy so final bit of hp took a while...

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    I almost decided to just not champion Apoc+. That was frustrating. I beat it once but it had used that stupid move of his 4 times so I just got expert. Just used the same team but more aggressive in my approach and got it.

    Garnet BSB2
    Ashe BSB and OSB for the end
    Vanille BSB
    Edge SSB Last Stand + Haste
    Yshtola BSB and Stoneskin near the end

    RM Stoneskin

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