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    the memes bro, the memes

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Why do you want to hear Trump lie?
    I'd rather not hear him at all. But if he's going to speak, I'd rather he say something good he doesn't mean than something bad he does mean or doesn't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    might be stretching it here, although the argument can certainly be made
    It is a bit of a stretch, the law is not so much morally wrong as it was passed in bad faith.

    It was only passed as a preventative measure to prevent local communities from choosing to remove or relocate Confederate statues.

    Absent that issue, the law would have never existed.

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    Archi can you use your hollwood wizardy to make a video of Trump saying the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi and then use your hollywood jew connections to make it go viral and then get the jews that run the media to verify it as 100% real

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    Archi can you use your hollwood wizardy to make a video of Trump saying the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi and then use your hollywood jew connections to make it go viral and then get the jews that run the media to verify it as 100% real
    probably

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    It's like, even the person who is on that "Heritage not Hate" bullshit and really does just "care about history" and "isn't racist" loses any shred of doubt remaining about whose side they are on when they march with literal open nazis. There's no "very fine people" remaining when that is a-ok with you.
    I had a whole thing typed up about how this particular logic is really messy for the left but then I realized I was being a stereotypical shitlib and trying too hard to be logically consistent. It's so much easier to just say "Fuck them when they do it" and go back to making memes.

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    The star wars universe is a work of fiction (I probably just triggered a bunch of people with that), it is a fictional universe composed of fictional characters.

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    I keep seeing this pic around the twitters and holy shit I'm that old guy bottom right


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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I keep seeing this pic around the twitters and holy shit I'm that old guy bottom right

    uh you realize he is on the side of the people OPPOSING the nazis right?

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    I'm not sure he knows where he is

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    pretty rude to insinuate i'd be w the nazis though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I'm not sure he knows where he is
    oh cuz you both be smoking the DANKEST i get it

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    i was just going to ask this fine colored gentleman if he had some reefers and he pulled out an aerosol can and started torching some doods, so I turned and asked his friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I keep seeing this pic around the twitters and holy shit I'm that old guy bottom right

    Smoking weed and it looks like fucking giant flowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marootsoobutsu View Post
    Antifa and their Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist revolutionary antecedents have a very long history of violence and ideological purity that is as damaging to society as hate speech. They are also deplorable; they use hate to justify hate, they justify violence on the basis of moral superiority.

    I'm 100% fine with condemning the alt-right, the KKK, white nationalists/supremacists, Nazis, and the like. They are deplorable, and history has shown what happens when they have power. But Antifa legitimately is no better, has philosophical roots that are just as vile, just as destructive, and should be condemned just as vociferously.

    Trump needs to be more clear in calling out the alt-right and their even more thuggish ilk. But most folks shouldn't need to-- it's obvious. It's one of those things that should go without saying. Maybe I've missed something here, but I don't recall folks at BG saying anything positive about the alt-right, or supporting them as anything but dangerous thugs. But there are a flood willing to say Antifa isn't "as bad", or a threat. They are. This isn't a "both sides" thing, because the right isn't saying, "it's okay to assault Antifa people."

    Violence over words happens. It shouldn't, but it does-- and it should be universally condemned when it does. Justifying violence because of ideology, or being glad of it, isn't some moral mark-- it's destructive, and ugly, and should be shameful. There are a lot of points where I disagree with BGers, but this is one of the few points where I am ashamed by the association. The initiation of violence over words is not morally okay, no matter how repugnant or morally awful the words being spoken are. Be better than those you oppose, not by having purer ideology, but by having morally better actions. I'm not saying don't confront them: I'm saying confront them with superior morality, with superior argument and rhetoric. Defeat them by taking your time, energy, and wealth, and use those to enact a positive impact on the world. Enable those who these scum would grind under heel. Violence against them justifies their position, makes them sympathetic to those who don't actually understand their position, and deprives you of a voice. Not denouncing those who enact violence deprives you of moral standing to those unaware of the situation, and taints the remainder of your message, however good it may be.

    Confronting hate with violence breeds more hate, and it breeds more violence. Confronting hate with kindness, confronting violence with goodness creates converts allies from enemies.
    This was solid post btw. This is what I would say if I had the word brain knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marootsoobutsu View Post
    Antifa and their Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist revolutionary antecedents have a very long history of violence and ideological purity that is as damaging to society as hate speech. They are also deplorable; they use hate to justify hate, they justify violence on the basis of moral superiority.

    I'm 100% fine with condemning the alt-right, the KKK, white nationalists/supremacists, Nazis, and the like. They are deplorable, and history has shown what happens when they have power. But Antifa legitimately is no better, has philosophical roots that are just as vile, just as destructive, and should be condemned just as vociferously.

    Trump needs to be more clear in calling out the alt-right and their even more thuggish ilk. But most folks shouldn't need to-- it's obvious. It's one of those things that should go without saying. Maybe I've missed something here, but I don't recall folks at BG saying anything positive about the alt-right, or supporting them as anything but dangerous thugs. But there are a flood willing to say Antifa isn't "as bad", or a threat. They are. This isn't a "both sides" thing, because the right isn't saying, "it's okay to assault Antifa people."

    Violence over words happens. It shouldn't, but it does-- and it should be universally condemned when it does. Justifying violence because of ideology, or being glad of it, isn't some moral mark-- it's destructive, and ugly, and should be shameful. There are a lot of points where I disagree with BGers, but this is one of the few points where I am ashamed by the association. The initiation of violence over words is not morally okay, no matter how repugnant or morally awful the words being spoken are. Be better than those you oppose, not by having purer ideology, but by having morally better actions. I'm not saying don't confront them: I'm saying confront them with superior morality, with superior argument and rhetoric. Defeat them by taking your time, energy, and wealth, and use those to enact a positive impact on the world. Enable those who these scum would grind under heel. Violence against them justifies their position, makes them sympathetic to those who don't actually understand their position, and deprives you of a voice. Not denouncing those who enact violence deprives you of moral standing to those unaware of the situation, and taints the remainder of your message, however good it may be.

    Confronting hate with violence breeds more hate, and it breeds more violence. Confronting hate with kindness, confronting violence with goodness creates converts allies from enemies.
    My ultimate take is that how much should people be tolerating intolerance before it's okay to no longer tolerate it?

    It's easy to go the moral high ground and claim violence isn't the answer, but when leadership seems to not care and the system to depose them is sluggish (election cycles), convoluted (things like impeachment), or corrupt (gerrymandering and financial influences), how can we really expect people to peaceably just simmer in the shit piles? None of this is stuff that's happened overnight. We've had the Civil War and WW2 as major past examples. We've got other stuff like Treyvon Martin or incidents in Ferguson. We've still got racial and gender inequality issues in the workplace. Medical care and health is still about profit as opposed to rights. How many more schools/theaters/churches need to be shot up before we start getting more careful about who guns get sold to?

    On one side, we've got people trying to point out these things are problems. On the other, you've got those that enjoy the current paradigm, deny the problems even exist, and some even trying to further strengthen such. No real amount of pleasantries seems to be having an effect in a time frame people care about. Help is needed now, not years from now. A good guy here and a good guy there doesn't seem to be doing a whole hell of a lot when the bad guys can play the same exact shell game and further succeed in spinning the pursuit of rights as theft from others. It's easy to mock millennials and peg them as the root of all evils when the world they grew into is a much different place than a generation or two prior--precisely because of their predecessors.

    We're in a world where a tweet could start a war. It's stupid, but still real. And short of DC getting its shit together and actually being for the people instead of their careers, you're going to be seeing more violence. Peace has been tried. We're arguably out of cheeks to turn. I can't blame people for getting angry for the right reasons. I can understand the reticence in justification, but there's not really a grey area in this particular case. Nazis treated a specific subset of people, and then some, as less than people. It's a door they opened. They don't get to call mulligan when it's turned back on them, be it online or on the streets. And if they can't comprehend why being a Nazi is bad, then our school systems are way worse off than we probably think. Scarier still, is that by design?

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    Well as we saw today Trump doesn't particularly care about calling out the alt right and instead would rage spend 10 minutes raging about the left.

    His shitty speech today pretty much solidified him as an ally of the alt right. But hey even they knew that Trump's weak ass two-day-late tweet wasn't real.

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    How do BG feel about eugenics?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    How do BG feel about eugenics?

    If we learned anything from Jurassic park, nature will always find a way.

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