Pretty sure AV had drops back then, but was just glitched so he didn't drop anything but a crystal on the first kill. His normal drops were added to the game in the same update that he was, after all.
Pretty sure AV had drops back then, but was just glitched so he didn't drop anything but a crystal on the first kill. His normal drops were added to the game in the same update that he was, after all.
We did, yes.
Eden beat AV twice, without the Wall of Justice. I don't quite remember how we locked his 2hrs, but eventually half the server came out on cors to reset the kclub drks. I tanked as nin with two plds, and healers and bards would zone to reset hate. It dropped stuff both times. Don't really remember what, or much of the other details, it was many years ago. Think we were fighting for about 8 hours the first time, 3 the second.
Well i mean, the wall of justice exploit was in the day one ToS, about it being against the rules to attack shit that has no way of getting to you.
The very first kill was done on Sylph by the server's premier HNM linkshell (I forget the name) when they managed to somehow glitch AV into not using SPs, WSs, or Magic at all. When they killed it, it dropped nothing but a wind crystal.
They called a GM to complain about it not dropping anything, and the GM said they'd forward the problem to the devs, while also telling them to not kill AV like that if it glitches in the future, or there'd be consequences.
A short time after that (a few days or weeks, I think?), some group (don't remember who) figured out how to get AV stuck on the gap between the northern and southern parts of the zone, and when they killed it like that, it dropped gear like normal. SE started bringing down the hammer on them and anyone else that did it soon after, but I don't remember the exact details.
A while after, people discovered zerging it down with Kraken Club and Apocalypse Dark Knights using Souleater (back when there was no global haste cap, so Apoc DRKs could hit 93.375% haste), which lasted a while, ending when SE introduced the Souleater nerf. We hit a brick wall again, SE released their video, and we never killed it again until the level cap got raised.
I might have a detail or two a bit off (like when SE released their video), but that was mostly the gist of what happened.
Sure and neither can you. So good job shooting your argument in the foot trying to prove me wrong.
And that's why I said the wording was more complicated. The difference is in activity. If you doing it right the mob can't get to you... if you mess up well it will. To go with that same with old teleporting chi blasts lol... but usually kept some people in area with hate. Also to note as I mentioned they were just as hard on a method using other walls that you couldn't really do this on but you could force AV to run around so if you could keep hate could allow some hijinks as well. Though don't think it ever got much popularity especially since iirc the wall of justice was just making it draw in
Ill spend a couple min when i get home from work to see if i can find any references
Yeah it was just outside al zahbi I remember that thread at the time. Hilarious