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    Seeking Advice on Testing Gavialis Helm with Aeonic AM

    So, I want to be sure that Gavialis Helm is working on Waters and Iceday for aeonic DRG while AM is up. Since my .lua works off that assumption.

    I was thinking of going out naked /sam with the helm on Earthsday against campaign forts. Unfortunately there are only 3 areas unowned right now on Asura, but that might be enough.

    Any suggestions/information?

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    Calculate the damage ranges you should get with the first hit of Stardiver at a consistent TP with your DMG, STR, with capped fSTR, and capped PDIF, for both base fTP and base fTP + 30/256. Then WS level 1, neutral to piercing, enemies at that TP on Watersday/Iceday until you see which damage range it corresponds to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    Calculate the damage ranges you should get with the first hit of Stardiver at a consistent TP with your DMG, STR, with capped fSTR, and capped PDIF, for both base fTP and base fTP + 30/256. Then WS level 1, neutral to piercing, enemies at that TP on Watersday/Iceday until you see which damage range it corresponds to.
    So just the starter mobs outside of the three nations then? Gotcha, makes the most sense since only the first hit will land. I will report back. :D

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    Pretty much anything you are 100% ensured to easily hit capped pdif/fstr and can kill with 1 hit preferably with no dmg type modifications but would be fine as long as you kept the same mob or type of modification without accounting for such. Ie don't expect as much dmg on rarab as bee/mandy.

    Are you just testing this item in particular or if AM actually makes it count as those elements for things that count that? Because if it's the later you could get a bit more degree of separation with belt/gorget

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    Okay, got my answer.

    Premise: Gavialis Helm works with Stardiver on Earthsday, Lightsday, and Darksday and is still the largest boost to the WS despite years of stronger equipment.
    Does the AM on Trishula and other Aeonics for their WSs expand the range of the helm to the level 3 property days? In this case it should function on Watersday, and Iceday since Trishula AM adds a darkness property to Stardiver.

    Answer: No, it does not work. Either it is a bug or more likely SE has the helm only checking the base properties of WSs.

    Findings:

    After checking the best way to test this since I was retarded and wanted to use campaign forts thinking it be convenient I got naked and ran around gaining 1,026 TP on wild rabbits in West Ronfaure. Stardiver was only performed on the rabbits and at the same TP.
    Which was annoying for the 1% of the time the first hit misses or conserve TP actived for DRG 25% of the time and the weapon had to be manually removed then requiped, but QQmoar

    Firesday: (Helm Inactive)
    • 1858
    • 1875
    • 1843
    • 1898
    • 1917
    • 1907
    • 1894
    • 1857
    • 1834
    • 1892
    • 1874
    • 1849
    • 1835
    • 1864
    • 1914
    • 1914
    • 1895
    • 1830
    • 1914
    • 1844

    Firesday: WS Average: 1875 in 20 WSs

    Earthsday: (Helm Active)
    • 2133
    • 2116 - 12 tp returned instead of 171
    • 2087
    • 2117
    • 2107
    • 2144 - 39 tp returned, conserve tp proc on a miss
    • 2044
    • 2069
    • 2052
    • 2078
    • 2114
    • 2096
    • 2080
    • 2057
    • 2096 - 12 tp returned
    • 2087 - 12 tp returned
    • 2056
    • 2075
    • 2049
    • 2130

    Earthsday: WS Average 2089 in 20 WSs

    AFKed, missed watersday, came back for iceday:

    Iceday:
    AM off
    • 1886
    • 1878


    AM on
    • 1899 - 182 tp returned
    • 1865
    • 1845
    • 1837
    • 1875


    Stopped the test because the answer was super obvious.

    Gavialis Helm only works for base WS properties, Aeonic AM Light or Dark additional properties are ignored.