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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    It's been mentioned before but yea, Goten and Trunks are older than Gohan was when he beat Cell but they look younger and act younger because Toriyama forgets shit all the time and is basically an idiot. The reason why Goku and Jiren were flying during that last fight because they either forgot or didn't care because it looked cool.

    If there's a reason for anything going on it's not a very good one.
    Honestly the only thing he's outright forgotten is Launch. After that people just like to associate any inconsistency with "he forgot"

    Toei sells a lot of trunks/goten/gotenks merch to kids, they're probably purposefully keeping them looking the same way.

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    another thread error, sorry fam, had to split, will try to find the deleted post thats causing the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Honestly the only thing he's outright forgotten is Launch. After that people just like to associate any inconsistency with "he forgot"

    Toei sells a lot of trunks/goten/gotenks merch to kids, they're probably purposefully keeping them looking the same way.
    He's also forgotten who Tao was, and that SSJ2 was a thing (he thought it went straight from SSJ to SSJ3).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Honestly the only thing he's outright forgotten is Launch. After that people just like to associate any inconsistency with "he forgot"

    Toei sells a lot of trunks/goten/gotenks merch to kids, they're probably purposefully keeping them looking the same way.
    I mean that is what being inconsistent is in essence, that or laziness and apathy the ultimate point being it's not a good look.

    The more you think about this shit the less meaning it has really, they could let Trunks and Goten grow or keep them as stupid midgets forever because toys. I guess that's cheaper than designing and developing new characters that people might not like I mean it's not like the universe has to grow or change or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    I mean that is what being inconsistent is in essence, that or laziness and apathy the ultimate point being it's not a good look.

    The more you think about this shit the less meaning it has really, they could let Trunks and Goten grow or keep them as stupid midgets forever because toys. I guess that's cheaper than designing and developing new characters that people might not like I mean it's not like the universe has to grow or change or anything.
    To be fair, that's completely on Toei's end with Super. Toriyama will design new things like ssjgod and what not, but other than that hey just provides a plot outline and Toei does the rest. He just makes minor adjustments in the story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Honestly the only thing he's outright forgotten is Launch.
    He literally forgot SS3 existed. He thought SS3 was SS2 with the electricity. Read a Daizenshuu sometime. Toriyama forgets shit constantly, and he's also a contrite prick that loves to subvert the fan's desires.
    The more the fans want something, the more he wants to do the exact opposite.

    The only reason he killed Vegeta in the Freeza Saga is because a shit ton of polled fans said they didn't want Vegeta to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    He literally forgot SS3 existed. He thought SS3 was SS2 with the electricity. Read a Daizenshuu sometime. Toriyama forgets shit constantly, and he's also a contrite prick that loves to subvert the fan's desires.
    The more the fans want something, the more he wants to do the exact opposite.

    The only reason he killed Vegeta in the Freeza Saga is because a shit ton of polled fans said they didn't want Vegeta to die.
    Yes, but Battle of the Gods came out like 10+ years after even GT ended (which he had little involvement with); and when he does forget shit, he isn't afraid to admit it.

    People take that and apply it to everything though. Trunks and Goten's age isn't one of them lol

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    Who decided to de-age Dende?

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    Probably the same person who forgot Monster Carrot and all his cronies were making mochi on the Moon when Muten blew it up in the 21st budokai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    He's also forgotten who Tao was, and that SSJ2 was a thing (he thought it went straight from SSJ to SSJ3).
    except goku went ssj2 when testing jiren's strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abandon View Post
    except goku went ssj2 when testing jiren's strength
    Pretty sure he was talking about BoG (when Toriyama first came back after who knows how long)

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    Or even Gotenks skipping ss2 lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Or even Gotenks skipping ss2 lol
    I mean, Goku and Vegeta both went ssj2 in that arc; I don't think that one was due to lax of memory rather than Gotenks skipping the form (same way Vegeta skipped 3/goddo and went straight to Blue)

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    I'm going to trust the history of a Mangaka famous for forgetting shit, then laughing about it, over you. No offense, CS. The man has a consistent history of forgetting shit and not giving a single fuck as

    A) he's rich
    B) he doesn't care anyway and would rather be left alone to build model cars

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    Okay guys. Dude isn't gonna forget a form literally called SS2 and then jump to SS3. Numbers make it easy. He doesn't care to be consistent is a far better argument than that he literally forgot one of the more obvious forms.

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    http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translatio...ial-interview/

    Do you write down notes anywhere for that sort of background information?

    No, I don’t do that. That’s why I keep on forgetting things. If I don’t forget stuff, new ideas won’t come to mind. For example, you know how there’s “Super Saiyan 3?

    Yes. Where the hair gets long.

    I didn’t know that. (laughs) The whole time, I thought that was “Super Saiyan 2;. (laughs)

    Whaaa?!

    And I drew that myself. (laughs) Anyhow, I thought “2 was the one with long hair. It was like, “Man, I’ve really forgotten stuff…”.
    It's not an argument. Dude literally said he forgot.

    When he forgot is up for debate, but not IF he forgot.

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