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    Thief! CC Guide Discussion

    Guide page: Here.

    The THF guide has had the most users contributing to it so a thread seems befitting.

    Even if no one uses it, I figured a thread for the THF Community Collaborative Guide might be useful for people to ask questions about the job and things. Ask away!

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    New Plunderer's feet +3 are the best for TPing in as far as I can see, added them to the max set.

    Makes sense to me, with so much TA gear, losing 1 TA for +11% to TA damage is a win. Besides, even if it was really close, getting the +4 TA, and more accuracy on augments is lame.

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    Added in a bunch of sets.

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    Very comprehensive. I'm going to ask a dumb question here. How do you unlock Emperyan WS so you can use them with any weapon? And what WS should I be using with Thf? I'm using beginners gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    Very comprehensive. I'm going to ask a dumb question here. How do you unlock Emperyan WS so you can use them with any weapon? And what WS should I be using with Thf? I'm using beginners gear.
    Glad you like it, it takes forever to set each TP set up and things to create each tier. I still need to do stacked Evisceration, etc, but figured that isn't a huge need for most situations.

    As for unlocking, go to the WS page and there is a link there in the unlock cell of the table.

    That or type empy WS, go to the WoEs page, or one of the many different redirects I could think of to be taken to the page for unlocking the WSs.

    As for WSs, there is a blurb in the guide before the gear someone wrote and I refined. I suppose I could break it down like DRG, but the basic gist is Rudras Storm spam unless to are trying to SC with someone in which case Mandalic and Evisceration come into play.

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    I wasn't aware of the "empy ws" page. I had been looking just at Rudra Storm page. I didn't know it was unlocked to all weapons once you hit 90 on the trial. That's pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    I wasn't aware of the "empy ws" page. I had been looking just at Rudra Storm page. I didn't know it was unlocked to all weapons once you hit 90 on the trial. That's pretty cool.
    90 empy or 99 WoE weapon, everyone does the WoE Weapon

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    Updated all the WS sets. Adding Accuracy/DW soon enough.

    EDIT: Acc sets up. They are pretty solid for maintaining DPS while gaining accuracy.

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    hi spicyryan,
    I am quite the fan of this guide and refer to it often. btw thanks for this guide.
    as i strive for the "Max" sets in my play in ffxi one thing that bothers me a bit
    will the adhemar bonnet in tp set really beat out plunderer's +3 for tp? yes plunderer's is a bit ugly but
    it beats nearly every stat or matches the adhemar. the only thing i see adhemar has the plunderer's doesn't is subtle blow and crit hit damage.
    is this enough to make it the best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor View Post
    hi spicyryan,
    I am quite the fan of this guide and refer to it often. btw thanks for this guide.
    as i strive for the "Max" sets in my play in ffxi one thing that bothers me a bit
    will the adhemar bonnet in tp set really beat out plunderer's +3 for tp? yes plunderer's is a bit ugly but
    it beats nearly every stat or matches the adhemar. the only thing i see adhemar has the plunderer's doesn't is subtle blow and crit hit damage.
    is this enough to make it the best?
    I'd imagine it's because of the flexibilty of the 4 augment paths, but outside of THing abyssea drops, I don't play THF much, so I couldn't say for certain.

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    I believe it's because you're using the set bonus w/ adhemar hands for the extra crit rate, at first glance.

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    At a second glance, this makes more sense than what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor View Post
    hi spicyryan,
    I am quite the fan of this guide and refer to it often. btw thanks for this guide.
    as i strive for the "Max" sets in my play in ffxi one thing that bothers me a bit
    will the adhemar bonnet in tp set really beat out plunderer's +3 for tp? yes plunderer's is a bit ugly but
    it beats nearly every stat or matches the adhemar. the only thing i see adhemar has the plunderer's doesn't is subtle blow and crit hit damage.
    is this enough to make it the best?
    I understand the skepticism. However this is similar to players who ask if the Dampening Tam should be better for THF, BLU, etc. It isn't and the stats against the other stats are why.

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    Thank you for the Clarification,
    Adhemar it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor View Post
    Thank you for the Clarification,
    Adhemar it is!
    Np.

    Feel free to ask anything else here.

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    What's the reason for not using Fotia Belt & Gorget for Rudras? Would they be a decent alternative if I don't have Caro & Grunfeld?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiaq View Post
    What's the reason for not using Fotia Belt & Gorget for Rudras? Would they be a decent alternative if I don't have Caro & Grunfeld?
    Same reason you don't use it for Savage Blade, the fTP is high for Rudra's Storm, adding .1 to a 5.0 or ~10.0 doesn't do what adding .1 to Stardiver's 0.75 or Resolutions ~ 0.7 fTP; these examples are also replicating fTP WSs as well where as Rudra's or Savage are not.

    If you don't have either of those pieces then use Moepapa Medal and Artful Belt +1/NQ. Artful +1 is the best for capped attack situations still, anyway.

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    would it be possible to add an aeolion edge set to guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor View Post
    would it be possible to add an aeolion edge set to guide?
    Yes, it's on the todo list. I'll look at doing it sooner rather than later.

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    Aeolian Edge sets added.

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