Avatar 2: The Way Of Water (December 16, 2022) - Development Hellmode

**carlweathers** · 2017-11-27 16:38

Originally Posted by Zealot

I wonder if the sequels to the highest-grossing movie of all time will also do well.

They're really rolling the dice on this one.

I can see it bombing. It's been so fucking long since the last Avatar, and the last avatar was completely culturally irrelevant.

**Deftscythe** · 2017-11-28 02:04

Originally Posted by Zealot

I wonder if the sequels to the highest-grossing movie of all time will also do well.

They're really rolling the dice on this one.

The first was successful purely off of it's visuals. I don't think they'll pull people in again with that. The novelty of the 3D tech has worn off.

**silverdragontyr** · 2017-11-28 02:41

Yeah pretty much. Everyone seems to agree the best thing about Avatar is it was pretty and the story and characters sucked. The problem with pretty is it needs to be different every time. Otherwise it's the same crap and.... pretty boring. I still don't really get how storywise you get even two or three movies much less four.

**6souls** · 2017-11-28 03:04

5 actually. James changed his mind awhile back and wanted a bigger series.

**Vaspinne** · 2017-11-28 03:35

So... we're not getting a movie within the next month?

**kuronosan** · 2017-11-28 08:19

The truth is he could have capitalized on it then and it would have been huge. He pulled a Matrix, and is going to backfire.

**zoobernut** · 2017-11-28 12:46

It has been far too long since the first movie and the first movie did not age well. People have all but forgotten about this series and the novelty of how it was made wore off. I will be amazed if the new movies are successful at all. He will have to do something radically different.

**Xno Kappa** · 2017-11-28 12:53

Originally Posted by silverdragontyr

Yeah pretty much. Everyone seems to agree the best thing about Avatar is it was pretty and the story and characters sucked. The problem with pretty is it needs to be different every time. Otherwise it's the same crap and.... pretty boring. I still don't really get how storywise you get even two or three movies much less four.

It was 2deep4u if that's what you think.

**Melena** · 2017-11-28 12:55

Originally Posted by zoobernut

It has been far too long since the first movie and the first movie did not age well. People have all but forgotten about this series and the novelty of how it was made wore off. I will be amazed if the new movies are successful at all. He will have to do something radically different.

Tell that to Disneyworld. Pandora is pulling in a ton of people and it's been open a few months now.

**Zealot** · 2017-11-28 13:01

I don't have any doubts that whatever counted as technological marvels for visuals in the first film, James Cameron will shame that for the sequel.

**Andalusian girls** · 2017-11-28 13:11

if only he could remember how to make a good movie

how Aliens and Terminator 2 evolved into Titanic and Avatar i'll never know smdh

**zoobernut** · 2017-11-28 13:13

Originally Posted by Melena

Tell that to Disneyworld. Pandora is pulling in a ton of people and it's been open a few months now.

That is a good point. There might be more of a following than I imagine but generally speaking you need to push really hard to get a whole series of movies out fast otherwise the hype dies down and subsequent films are flops. Unless you somehow make the subsequent films substantially better than the first in the series.

What was the release schedule for the Lord of the Rings trilogy or the Hobbit series? If I recall Peter Jackson pushed really hard to get those out fast so the hype didn't die down in between films. Same reason why TV shows that take too long of a break in between seasons can be really hard to revive.

**Krandor** · 2017-11-28 13:15

80s to early 90s Cameron (Terminator thru True Lies) is just the best.

**Anoat** · 2017-11-28 13:30

Originally Posted by Melena

Tell that to Disneyworld. Pandora is pulling in a ton of people and it's been open a few months now.

The Flight of Passage ride is honestly the most incredible theme park attraction I've ever been on.

**Melena** · 2017-11-28 15:05

Originally Posted by Anoat

The Flight of Passage ride is honestly the most incredible theme park attraction I've ever been on.

So ive heard. I’m going to have to go hardcore on keto so I can get on that ride when Astylla and I next go there.

**Melena** · 2017-11-28 15:05

Originally Posted by zoobernut

That is a good point. There might be more of a following than I imagine but generally speaking you need to push really hard to get a whole series of movies out fast otherwise the hype dies down and subsequent films are flops. Unless you somehow make the subsequent films substantially better than the first in the series.

What was the release schedule for the Lord of the Rings trilogy or the Hobbit series? If I recall Peter Jackson pushed really hard to get those out fast so the hype didn't die down in between films. Same reason why TV shows that take too long of a break in between seasons can be really hard to revive.

For the trilogies it was 1 each year though he did all the film in back to back.

**Vaspinne** · 2017-11-28 16:58

Originally Posted by Melena

For the trilogies it was 1 each year though he did all the film in back to back.

He shot all 3 LotR movies at the same time. The first scene they filmed with the cast was the scene when Bilbo and Frodo were leaving middle earth with the elvs at the end of RotK.

From preproduction to the final reshoots of RotK was like a 9 year process or some crazy shit like that. The Hobbit in comparison was a horrible clusterfuck organization and scheduling wise

**Rulke** · 2017-11-28 17:38

Actually, the first scenes of LOTR was the 4 hobbits on the road just before the first black rider shows up.

**Vaspinne** · 2017-11-28 19:26

Whatever, my point being they shot all 3 movies at once and completely out of sequence

**zoobernut** · 2017-11-28 19:43

Originally Posted by Vaspinne

Whatever, my point being they shot all 3 movies at once and completely out of sequence

Which was the correct way to do it because then they could carefully control the release schedule of the movies and make sure that people were excited about them in between releases.