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    Quote Originally Posted by gaira View Post
    always been a grappler fan at heart so abigail is cool in my book even though he did get buffed a bit too much this season.

    also commercial success (which is great, glad to see dbz well-received) doesn't necessarily have anything to do with level or amount of competitive play. i'm not sure if something like evo with a long history is ready to embrace a non street fighter (even if it were another capcom game) game to headline, but that may be an issue next year, who knows.
    If i'm correct, EVO started main eventing SF since 2009 or 2010 when SF4 came out, and Marvel 2 started fizzling out, Marvel 3 never main evented because of the popularity of SF. I could be wrong, but SF5 is still a joke of a game, and i'm pretty sure a lot of people want to see the game die. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitsuki View Post
    You understand tho the reason sf5 is so popular is because of how much money capcom and sony backed it up with, and capcom cup / evo having huge payouts.
    If I understand this position correctly, Capcom has hacked the system and given themselves unearned advantage by actually supporting their own game with tournaments that have big prizes, which developers are not supposed to do. (even though Namco and NRS also do it)

    There are a whole lot of tournaments that don't have prizes from Capcom, and yet those tournaments have also consistently had SF5 as top entry. What's the excuse there? If Capcom Cup prizes somehow boost entrants at tournaments across the country, then why didn't the nationals for TK7 and IJ2 (games that "aren't hated") push those games over failed SF5? And why doesn't that mean TK7 and IJ2 have also been artificially propped up by big rewards?

    Notice how many of the people who declare SF5 a horrible failure are breathlessly commenting live when SF5 majors are streaming, instead of doing literally anything else. They desperately want SF5 to be an irrelevant bust, but they can't keep up the facade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitsuki View Post
    If i'm correct, EVO started main eventing SF since 2009 or 2010 when SF4 came out, and Marvel 2 started fizzling out, Marvel 3 never main evented because of the popularity of SF.
    There wasn't really one main event at B4 and B5. The failure of 3S in USA, death of A3, and debacle of 30-minute best-of-3 CVS1 matches created a window for MVC2 to take over. And while MVC3 never main evented, it did have highest stream viewer count for several years in a row (for whatever that's worth). But Capcom Cup was created 3 years before SF5's release, and no one had anything to say about tournament prize money dictating which games are popular then. It wasn't until SF5 came out that an explanation was needed for why a hated game that no one likes was somehow setting every record for entries and viewership, and the legend of corporate money was born.

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    Can we not with this tired ass argument, jesus christ.

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    It is tiring isn't it but it wouldn't be BG without a trail of beaten dead horses. I say we join the rest of the FGC and argue about numpad notation instead.

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    There's no argument, numpad notation is the best and James Chen is an idiot.

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    Evo 2018 - It's called a Ki Blast

    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    There's no argument, numpad notation is the best and James Chen is an idiot.
    This, welcome to anime fighters!

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    Or SC, VF, and Tekken outside the US

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    numpad is the only correct notation, anyone who argues otherwise is wrong

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    QCF 4 Lyfe!

    Not really, I never put much thought into one over the other. Bilingual yo!

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    Happ vs. Sanwa all over again

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    hmm, chatter on twitter seems to be indicating no MVCI at evo 2018. lineup appears to be:

    SF5
    T7
    INJ2
    melee
    smash 4
    BBCTB
    GGXRD
    DBFZ

    does that make this the first tournament in evo's history without a marvel entry?

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    Evo 2018 Game lineup:

    SFV
    Smash: Melee
    Smash WiiU
    Tekken 7
    DBFZ
    BlazeBlue Cross Tag
    Injustice 2
    Guilty Gear Rev2

    Sunday lineup is gonna be Melee, Tekken, GG, DBFZ, and SFV.

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    3 arcsys games, all hail our new anime overlord.

    Also puts the rest Spider-dan trying to argue MVCI wasn't DOA.

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    Max looks like he's going to cry because of no MvCI

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    Amazing /clap

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    RIP Mahvel.

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    Incredible, game is officially dead after less then 6 months

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    New record.

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    Including BlazBlue and Injustice but not MVCI has no logical foundation.
    Wizard is trying to prove some sort of point. Best of luck to him with it.

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