FFXIV Random Complaint Thread III: Zenos was the best part of SB

[Kaisha]

Didn't mobs give shit exp and it was the bosses that gave tons? Been awhile since I leveled before 6.0. Either way that DSP is a whiney bitch and idiot since the logs/progress bar should have been a clear indicator of mobs not giving XP

iirc, they nerfed trash xp awhile back and also removed the chain bonus in dungeons, and buffed the boss amount. This is just another step on top of that. Can't wait for the next step to be removing per-mob gil/mat drops on the older dungeons that did that.

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Like this the other day in some inconsequential trial:

There's only a couple specific fights I'd rather people hold to LB3 for, and if it's not for quickly killing an Aetherial Tear, then it's likely for "playerbase bad, healer lb3 backup" reasons.

Tanks need to stop being little bitches and just go wall to wall, there is no reason they cannot. Taking 25 minutes to clear something that should take 12-14 is stupid and requires less effort.

There have been so many god-awful tanks returning to the game that it's a gamble if they don't go splat pulling wall-to-wall. Absolute night-and-day difference running experts with my static than DF with regards to my dps upkeep as healer. It's not like it's an iLvl issue at this point when all I get is the msq expert dungeon which caps is low. Just tanks who simply don't rotate their CDs of which they have 3-4 per pull to use.

[Lokus]

I thought the change was that trash mobs don't give exp on kill but any trash mobs you killed get added to the exp total when you kill the boss? Even if that isn't the case, going out of the way to kill an extra 5-6 mobs in the leveling dungeons is pure madness.

[Gokulo]

Tbh I never checked for any research on this, but I assumed that the mob kills don't affect it

[Anoat]

If I’m tanking:

PLD: Clemency/Holy Shelltron go brrrrrr
WAR: Bloodwhetting and Mythril Tempest go brrrrr
GNB: Heart of Corundum and whatever go brrrrr
DRK: TBN go brrrr for a little bit then hope you don’t die before it’s up again

[Corrderio]

I'll never understand PLDs and their obsession with Clemency.

[Anoat]

Like it’s almost impossible to die during pulls if you are putting in some effort and your healer has a pulse, unless you are on DRK then you gotta be a little more careful but still not impossible

[Corrderio]

I've actually ran into healers without a pulse. Big oof when you die at the start of a pull when the Sage in your party has the EX trial wings but you drop before you even have a moment to react. Think I had to use Hallowed Ground 3 times in that dungeon run.

[IceSylph]

If a PLD uses Clemency and I'm still alive, I won't use any heals/OGCD on them at all. No point. Wish that ability would only unlock if multiple people in a party were dead.

[The Stig]

Since this thread has traffic, might as well keep chronicling it.

Had a cute returner tank on level 69 MSQ dungeon! I checked him, he had 3/5 pieces of the gear (left side) and I 3 accessories from that dungeon.
Won't listen to advice and still doesn't know how to do second boss (he's level 69 so he's obviously queueing for it most likely for the exp)
Healer who is busy DPSing let him get low a bit (as you do) and he ran away
I suggested to him not to run as it doesn't help, just trust the healer, but he's like "or, i'll just run" lol

I dunno, just cute. Not angry or anything as it's pointless, but it's fun to see such spectacles haha

[Corrderio]

Also a bit unrelated but anyone have any advice for self sustain when it comes to WAR? I know AoEs and Bloodwhetting is like a mini benediction but curious what else you can ndo to tap into the potential.

Also a bit of a nitpick but it's annoying Bozjan/Moonward gear can't be turned in/donated. Got a ton of that stuff I wish I could do something with instead of tossing.

[Anoat]

You can desynth them I think for your crafting jobs

WAR self sustain is gonna use Bloodwhetting as your main skill but you can also use Thrill of Battle, Equilibrium, and Shake It Off for self heals, basically if you are really in a pinch on big dungeon pulls you can use one in between your Bloodwhetting timer and rotate them to keep yourself up, on bosses it will be even easier to do since you really only need them to either top off before or after a tank buster move. And also now with the change to Holmgang you can use it without fear of handicapping yourself, it’s basically a mirror for PLD’s Hallowed Ground now.

[Lokus]

They can't be desynthed yet either. Just have to discard them or hold them until 6.1 where we'll likely get the ability to turn them in or desynth.

[Prothescar]

Long as your healer is dpsing and not keeping your hp bar at 100% at all times there's not much reason not to use equilibrium every pull. 60s cool down, huge chunky heal and a regen on top. Can pair it with thrill to boost the initial heal potency too.

[Dotsudoku]

They can't be desynthed yet either. Just have to discard them or hold them until 6.1 where we'll likely get the ability to turn them in or desynth.

for whatever reason eureka-style equipment is toss-only forever

[Koul]

they really need to do something to bozja castrum engagement. Can't progress on my resistance weapon cuz I'm stuck on that stupid quest and it's so insanely unfriendly to noobs to learn the mechanics in time.

[Destinye]

they really need to do something to bozja castrum engagement. Can't progress on my resistance weapon cuz I'm stuck on that stupid quest and it's so insanely unfriendly to noobs to learn the mechanics in time.

They've done all they can for it honestly, it's all doable low man (first boss can be a bitch though) but I think it REALLY depends on your instance, I just went into a full castrum last night whereas 2 days ago it was only me and another dps despite full instance. I guarantee if they treat SHB relics like they did HW and make a step for EW's relic a "victory lap of old content", engagement will sky rocket again. If it's anything like BA, they'll unlikely ever touch anything directly relating to it just stuff surrounding it.

[Necromantic]

There have been so many god-awful tanks returning to the game that it's a gamble if they don't go splat pulling wall-to-wall. Absolute night-and-day difference running experts with my static than DF with regards to my dps upkeep as healer. It's not like it's an iLvl issue at this point when all I get is the msq expert dungeon which caps is low. Just tanks who simply don't rotate their CDs of which they have 3-4 per pull to use.

As a tank, it's also a gamble for the healer you get. I've tanked where I can very confidently pull wall to wall with 0 even remote issues or I'll get a healer that forgets they're a healer and is still in Black Mage mode.

Also, to be fair, some tanks returning are not necessarily awful, they may not be used to the meta changes that occurred while they were gone. I've returned after certain periods and it's crazy how the current meta changes. Things that were a huge "no-no" before are "common sense" now. Things that were "you must..." are now "wtf are you doing??"

[Corrderio]

Apparently you can get penalized leaving a dungeon in progress if the entire PT but you DCed. Good to know if that ever happens again I guess.

[Corrderio]

Red mage LB3 or as I like to call it "The party wiper"

They really need to tone that down. DRK too to a certain extent even though it's nowhere near as bad.

[Anoat]

RDM lb3 should be a bannable offense