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    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/14/70335...-air-travelers

    737 Max8 and 9s grounded in the US now.

    Has there ever been this issue with Airbus planes? This isn't the first time the 737 line had some major issue.

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    pretty interesting take on it in the atlantic by james fallows. has some excerpts from other pilots complaining about the max 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazzyphizzle View Post
    pretty interesting take on it in the atlantic by james fallows. has some excerpts from other pilots complaining about the max 8
    I read that the new engines changed how the plane maneuvers detrimentally, nose tends to tip upwards. The compensator they added pitches the nose downward.

    In the two fatal crashes that have occurred each time the flight control either malfunctioned or didn't behave how the pilots thought it would, as a result, pitched the nose downward, and the pilots fought the autopilot unsuccessfully until they crashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djzombie View Post
    I read that the new engines changed how the plane maneuvers detrimentally, nose tends to tip upwards. The compensator they added pitches the nose downward.

    In the two fatal crashes that have occurred each time the flight control either malfunctioned or didn't behave how the pilots thought it would, as a result, pitched the nose downward, and the pilots fought the autopilot unsuccessfully until they crashed.
    The co-pilot in the Ethiopian flight's co-pilot had 200 hours :/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/b...ian-crash.html

    Reviews of tens of thousands of 737 Max flights at American, Southwest and United showed the automated system never activated, presumably because their pilots never forced the noses of their aircraft too high. Some pilots said they were concerned the system could be activated by a single inaccurate sensor, pushing the plane toward the ground right after takeoff, when the margin for error was thin. But they added that in that situation, they could always flip a switch to automatically turn off systems like MCAS.

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    Icelandic Budget carrier WOW Airlines shut down with no notice, stranding a ton of customers across the world. Probably the most appropriate story yet based on thread title.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/28/busin...ntl/index.html

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    Best and quickest reaction would be "wow".

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    Damn they had some sick cheap flights to Europe.

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    Something like 16 million in landing fees were owed to an airport so the airport held one of their planes as collateral. (I didn't read the article so it might be in there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    Something like 16 million in landing fees were owed to an airport so the airport held one of their planes as collateral. (I didn't read the article so it might be in there)
    Unless it got edited in, it wasn't but god damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    Something like 16 million in landing fees were owed to an airport so the airport held one of their planes as collateral. (I didn't read the article so it might be in there)
    That's amazing.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47745191
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/investi...sh-11553836204

    Software appears to be what brought the Ethiopian jet down.

    Officials probing the crash in Ethiopia of a Boeing 737 Max have preliminarily concluded that a flight-control feature automatically activated before it crashed, the Wall Street Journal says.

    The Manoeuvring Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) flight-control feature was also implicated in a fatal crash by Lion Air flight in Indonesia last year.

    MCAS is software designed to help prevent the 737 Max 8 from stalling.

    It reacts when sensors in the nose of the aircraft show the jet is climbing at too steep an angle, which can cause planes to stall.

    But an investigation of the Lion Air flight last year suggested the system malfunctioned, and forced the plane's nose down more than 20 times before it crashed into the sea killing all 189 passengers and crew.

    The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) says there are similarities between that crash and the Ethiopian accident on 10 March.

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    The pilots repeatedly took the steps Boeing instructed and were unable to maintain control of the plane.

    How terrifying those few minutes must've been...

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47812225

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    How Boeing's stock isn't in a faster free fall than those planes is beyond me. Too big to fail, even if your planes are set to kill all passengers if a sensor is hit by winds at the right angle...

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    Pretty sure they're just going to rebrand because capitalism.

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SA036

    737 slid off the runway in Jacksonville, FL and into a river while attempting to land during a thunderstorm. There were 136 people on board and they suffered only minor injuries.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48174169

    Russian plane is hit by lightning mid flight and is forced to make an emergency landing. As it landed the plane ignited. 41 of the 78 on board died.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48174797

    Boeing admits to knowing the programming flaw in the 737's software a year ahead of the first incident, but took no action while planning to fix it in a later update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48174169

    Russian plane is hit by lightning mid flight and is forced to make an emergency landing. As it landed the plane ignited. 41 of the 78 on board died.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48174797

    Boeing admits to knowing the programming flaw in the 737's software a year ahead of the first incident, but took no action while planning to fix it in a later update.
    Holy shit that plane on fire. Holy fuck. Fuck flying.

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    Damn that footage is nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Holy shit that plane on fire. Holy fuck. Fuck flying.
    There have been plane crashes a lot worse. Drivers in the southern US still scare me more.

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