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    Yeah afaik, legally, handicapped accessible things need to be available and offered, but those things dont need to be any extra convenient. They already offer a certain number of seats, that satisfies the requirement. If a posse of wheelchair folk want a ride, theyll have to plan and schedule accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Yeah afaik, legally, handicapped accessible things need to be available and offered, but those things dont need to be any extra convenient. They already offer a certain number of seats, that satisfies the requirement. If a posse of wheelchair folk want a ride, theyll have to plan and schedule accordingly.

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    Look at the airline policies. That shit is STUPID and needs to change. They're excluded from the ADA, so they can literally do whatever they want hiding behind "safety standards," for their seats vs wheelchairs that are actually tested harder and are safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/17/79735...000-for-a-ride

    Amtrak charges two customers $25k for $16 tickets because they use wheelchairs.
    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/0...ter-complaints

    Amtrak was discovered more space and will charge the two $16 for their tickets.

    On Monday, two senior Amtrak officials called a lawyer at Access Living to offer a solution. They said Amtrak could find extra space on the train after all and the two could ride for the regular price of the ticket.

    Access Living accepted the offer.

    Then there was another complication. Another disability group is sending staff to the same statewide conference. Two wheelchair users from that group want to take the same train.

    On Monday afternoon, Amtrak agreed to find space for all of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Amtrak isn't being unreasonable and putting a headline up saying they were charged $25k for two tickets is click bait.

    Just read it.
    Access Living is taking 10 staff members to the conference, including five who use wheelchairs. The train has three cars and each car has one space set aside for a wheelchair user, following regulations set out under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

    Amtrak had said to add space for the two additional wheelchair users, it would need to take a train car out of service in order to unbolt extra seats. An Amtrak group sales agent, writing to Access Living on Dec. 30, explained that would cost $25,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/0...ter-complaints

    Amtrak was discovered more space and will charge the two $16 for their tickets.
    What's the point of quoting me? I'm not wrong.

    Glad they found a solution.

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    And again, it wasn't for only two passengers. Nor did they charge them $25k. Unlike what the headlines say.

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    ...bruh he literally quoted the section that proved you wrong. They were charged 25k. It says it right there.

    Why are you incapable of admitting you're wrong lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    ...bruh he literally quoted the section that proved you wrong. They were charged 25k. It says it right there.

    Why are you incapable of admitting you're wrong lol

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    Why are you incapable of reading comprehension? They were not charged $25k. The bolded part does not say they were charged. Take 5 minutes and read some of the articles. Seriously. Get the fuck off my nuts.

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    Bruh, it says right there they were quoted 25k for the change.

    What the heck do those words mean to you? Are you so dense that you see the words "charged 25k" and think they paid 25k out of pocket and are just complaining after the fact? I cant imagine what else you think it means, unless you think they already paid 25k, which they did not obviously.

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    Amtrak has reversed course — at least partly — on its plan to charge two wheelchair users $25,000 for a short train ride, after hearing criticism, including from a U.S. senator.
    The first paragraph literally says Amtrak charged them 25k. Idk what those words mean to you, but clearly they were charged 25k for the changes they needed to do to accomodate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Bruh, it says right there they were quoted 25k for the change.

    What the heck do those words mean to you? Are you so dense that you see the words "charged 25k" and think they paid 25k out of pocket and are just complaining after the fact? I cant imagine what else you think it means, unless you think they already paid 25k, which they did not obviously.

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    You're missing a HELL of a lot of context. Go beyond the headlines.

    They didn't just say "oh, that'll be $25k or go fuck yourself."

    You're the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    And again, it wasn't for only two passengers.
    Amtrak had said to add space for the two additional wheelchair users
    Pretty sure that says two, unless my math is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Pretty sure that says two, unless my math is off.
    Which wasn't what was actually happening, but it's cool. Ignore the facts.

    We already covered this btw. Scroll up.

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    People who can't admit they are wrong are hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    You're missing a HELL of a lot of context. Go beyond the headlines.

    They didn't just say "oh, that'll be $25k or go fuck yourself."

    You're the worst.

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    No one claimed that.

    The only thing anyone here said was they were charged 25k to make the accommodations they requested.

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    Hiw about this. We don't agree and won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    People who can't admit they are wrong are hilarious.
    Hilarious?

    Its fucking scary dude. On a topic of absolutely no consequence, on an internet forum with strangers, the guy cant bring himself to admit he was wrong. He just cant. Imagine the lengths he'll go to deny facts on a topic of actual consequence o_o

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    Next he'll say it's just his opinion that they weren't charge 25k lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Hilarious?

    Its fucking scary dude. On a topic of absolutely no consequence, on an internet forum with strangers, the guy cant bring himself to admit he was wrong. He just cant. Imagine the lengths he'll go to deny facts on a topic of actual consequence o_o

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    Oh I completely agree with you. To me, that is why it's hilarious. There is literally zero consequence to just say my bad and move on. But he just can't do it. To be so fragile must be extremely difficult.

    edit: I suppose I should clarify my view of hilarious in this instance. I don't mean Jim Carrey comedy I'm laughing so hard I'm crying hilarious. More like I'm shaking my head at it. In fact, I suppose hilarious isn't the right word, probably at all, but I'll leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Hilarious?

    Its fucking scary dude. On a topic of absolutely no consequence, on an internet forum with strangers, the guy cant bring himself to admit he was wrong. He just cant. Imagine the lengths he'll go to deny facts on a topic of actual consequence o_o

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    Remember, you helped create this situation. Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    Oh I completely agree with you. To me, that is why it's hilarious. There is literally zero consequence to just say my bad and move on. But he just can't do it. To be so fragile must be extremely difficult.
    So it takes a fragile person to disagree?

    The hypocrisy happening right now is fucking disgusting.

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