Help Zealot Find A Job

[Salodin]

Well need someone with a B in Art to do it convincingly, then we can split the con 3 ways.

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[Tyche]

TIL Government pays their attorneys 55k and their nurse practitioners 150k+


what a world...

[Salodin]

We need some healthcare reform I'd say...

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[Zealot]

Have you considered working at the state level rather than federal doing exactly what you’re doing now? Maybe move to a new state, change of scenery, get a nice government job away from DC.

That's not a bad idea. I suppose I should start with looking at things in Maryland and branch out from there.

[Kalmado]

That's not a bad idea. I suppose I should start with looking at things in Michigan and branch out from there.

Beer capital of the country!


Most expensive auto insurance too...

[Day]

I got a job for you

[Rhyis.]

A law degree in DC pays 70k a year? Is that a typo? Is there a zero missing?

*looks at his science degree*

Sigh...

I went to a community college for 1 year for a general business certificate and make 60k as the operations/food & beverage manager for my cities convention centre.
The world is full of opportunities when you realize peeps gotta eat and will pay money to eat.

[Salodin]

Do you get your nights and weekends?

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[Rhyis.]

negative. which is the drawback lol

[BerenTebogo]

Have you considered academia for law? Might be worth looking into if you like teaching or research.

[Zealot]

Where would I start looking for something like that? And would I need to get any kind of teaching certification or does that depend on the place?

[Gredival]

Just curious, are you looking to stay in the world of law or whatever it is you do? Or are you looking for anything? I've always wondered what someone would do if they are in mid life, are tired of what they are doing for work even though it's what they went to school for, and have the means to go do anything.

Law degrees can transition well to public policy or politics, which are law related but consist of different daily work. There's also a lot of variation in the kinds of law you can pursue -- not just specialization but whether you focus on transactional, litigation, arbitration, regulatory, etc.

A law degree in DC pays 70k a year? Is that a typo? Is there a zero missing?

Early career law hasn't made over 100k a year, with the exception of the absolute best firms, since the 2008 crash. A bunch of us (myself included) responded to the recession by going to school to punt on the economy. That created an oversupply of JDs that the system is still absorbing right now. Law school enrollment didn't drop off (as a response to declining salary) until 2 years ago.

TIL Government pays their attorneys 55k and their nurse practitioners 150k+

CA State Gov paid me 60k but charged my hours at $171/hr (300k/yr for full time) when we were claiming attorney's fees on cases. Associate Chief Counsel at my dept. billed at $963/hr because she used to be a partner at a big law firm before going to Gov.

Where would I start looking for something like that? And would I need to get any kind of teaching certification or does that depend on the place?

I don't know about tenure track, but I know JD and practice experience is enough to get you as a visiting adjunct at colleges that offer pre-law courses and local law schools. If you want a T14 tenure track, you need to have some prestige (high level clerkships).

Something else to consider is being a law librarian. It is apparently a relatively low competition field (need the unusual combination of a Masters in Library Studies plus a JD), low stress, and pays well. You just need to be good with Lexis/WestLaw.

[tyven]

Get a policy job at an association THAT IS HOW YOU BECOME LAWNBBYIST WHICH IS THE BEST JOB

[tyven]

Congrats on your new job https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1033066648

[BerenTebogo]

Where would I start looking for something like that? And would I need to get any kind of teaching certification or does that depend on the place?

Depends on the place. Gred covered the visiting adjunct angle, but to be honest you will be overworked and paid shit. It might be worth going back and getting your PhD in law if you don't have it.

It might seem like a big ask but if you really like law theory it is worth looking into. Plenty of success stories of people going back to school later in life and making it work really well for them, myself included. The PhD pay will likely be less than what you want or are used to but it would allow you to get the fuck out of DC if you want and really go anywhere in the country.

It looks like the stipend system is a bit different for law PhD programs than STEM, but from clicking around it looks like 2-3 years with tuition fully covered and some level of stipend. Looks like law students are strongly encouraged to apply to external scholarship programs to help fund their graduate program income. I can't find any solid numbers on stipends actually which is weird. Different academic world than what I'm used to. It might be worth making some inquiries to people within your network.

Also all the "why you shouldn't get a PhD" articles written by fucking smoothbrains that show up near the top of the list on google searches is triggering the fuck out of me. Obviously you should really analyze how much you care about research and your thoughts on teaching, but law theory is something that seems more and more interesting the longer I think about it for the purposes of this conversation. Also looks like there are a lot of joint law + economics programs which will always make good money.

[Abandon]

smoothbrains lol

[BaneTheBrawler]

I got a job for you

but you're not gonna share cos it blows?

[Rhyis.]