2020 Democratic Primary Clown Car Special: 560 days of this bullshit.

[Gredival]

I agree with pretty much your whole post except the issue I absolutely cannot get over is that I think that we're going to take so long to get where we need to be that it's going to be too late to stop ourselves from burning alive. I truly hope I'm wrong.

I'm actually firmly in the camp that we're past the point of no return on climate change. The best evidence I've read points to this being true.

Now that doesn't mean I think we should pour accelerant all over and light the match, but our actions (and elections) have had consequences that are now inescapable. Which makes it more imperative for future generations that we actually have leadership that is ready to tackle big problems.

[Andalusian girls]

define past the point of no return

[Salodin]

define past the point of no return

Preventing enough sea level rise to keep half of south America from migrating north.

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[kuronosan]

define past the point of no return

Past the point where deluge is inevitable rather then improbable.

[archibaldcrane]

There is no point of no return, it's just a steadily creeping scale of increasing disaster. There's no point too far, there's no point at which we are saved. It's just worse and worse, starting like 60 years ago.

It's already bad, it's going to keep getting worse.

[Krandor]

If we're already past the point of no return why are people still spazzing out about it so much?

We all gonna die in a ozoneless hell, might as well get weird with it.

[Salodin]

If we're already past the point of no return why are people still spazzing out about it so much?

We all gonna die in a ozoneless hell, might as well get weird with it.

Because that point of no return fluctuates based on your means of dealing with it. Poor Americans near the coast are fucked, rich ones will move 30miles inland to where the floods dont happen.

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[Byrthnoth]

Moving inland won't save them from the tornados, floods, fires, and mudslides.

We should have elected Gore.

[kuronosan]

We did.

[Salodin]

Plenty of space in America for there to be areas that arent much different then they are now after the avg rise in temps, for a price. At least for a generation at a time, where they can slowly move between general areas of peace relative to the humanitarian disasters near the coasts.

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[Salodin]

The dakotas might be nice this time of year, 20 years from now.

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[D44kpunk]

The dakotas might be nice this time of year, 20 years from now.

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it's like 60s-80s in the dakotas right now. where are you from? no where in united states is it not summer/decent temps

[Melena]

it's like 60s-80s in the dakotas right now. where are you from? no where in united states is it not summer/decent temps

Did you miss how the majority of the country had a winter warning effect earlier this week? Hell we are a week away from June and California still has rain in the forecast.

[kuronosan]

Kansas just had near freezing temperatures followed by storms. This shit ain't normal.

[D44kpunk]

Did you miss how the majority of the country had a winter warning effect earlier this week? Hell we are a week away from June and California still has rain in the forecast.

source on this? yes i must have missed how the majority of the country had a winter warning effect. please link

Kansas just had near freezing temperatures followed by storms. This shit ain't normal.

must've missed this too, sister in KC lowest she said it got was 50? not disputing i guess i just live under a rock to what is currently being talked about


also i'm still of the camp that we are past the point of no return on climate change, most intelligent papers are saying that it's a snowball effect and we started the snowball in the 80s. so i agree with whoever said that

[Salodin]

I was talking hypothetically, after the climate zones have adjusted a little.

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[Melena]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1558671169615

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1558671169615

And from may 13th

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1558671169615

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[kuronosan]

must've missed this too, sister in KC lowest she said it got was 50? not disputing i guess i just live under a rock to what is currently being talked about


also i'm still of the camp that we are past the point of no return on climate change, most intelligent papers are saying that it's a snowball effect and we started the snowball in the 80s. so i agree with whoever said that

Earlier this month and in April it hit 40-42 several times with one trough hitting mid 30s in April.

Very atypical for Kansas compared to the least few years.

[Byrthnoth]

Yesterday around 3:30PM, DC got super dark (felt like about 10PM) and we briefly had hail / tornado (warning or watch? idk) / rain.

Scientists really swung and missed when they named it "Global Warming" instead of something like "Global Weirding." People love to talk about how strange the weather is, while +0.1 degree of temperature sounds like nothing.

[Gredival]

define past the point of no return

Even if we take strict corrective measures, it can only mitigate the damage we have done and not fully reverse it. Archi is right that things are a sliding scale of disaster, but there is an amount of man-made accelerated warming that is here to stay with permanent effects (such as partial melting of the polar caps). There is no return because there is no way to fix what we've done, only stop making it worse.