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    I remember that old phrase of judging people by who they surround themselves with. No one's saying the guy was BFFs with PDP, but certain idealologies certainly seem to be reflected with the move on the barest level of digital sympathetic intent.

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    I also remember the old phrase, 'know thy enemy,' sooooo, aaaaaawwwwwww yeeeeaaaaaahhhh.

    idk mang, this 'guilty by association' tripe drives me nutz. not as bonkerz as u, milkster. i mean, you gotta be insane, right? kudos for the lols doe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    k? It's amazing how you manage to troll with even less effort here than in spam.

    Serious response: Like I already told you, if you have actual evidence of PDP holding problematic views (obviously it exists), go ahead and rely on that. Using his rhetoric to re-frame independently innocuous Twitter follows into something nefarious and then using those follows as additional evidence of wrongthinking is intellectually dishonest. You're double dipping on the same evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefe View Post
    I also remember the old phrase, 'know thy enemy,' sooooo, aaaaaawwwwwww yeeeeaaaaaahhhh.

    idk mang, this 'guilty by association' tripe drives me nutz. not as bonkerz as u, milkster. i mean, you gotta be insane, right? kudos for the lols doe.
    Oh honey..... no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    ...well shit, I didn't know he was that bad lol
    Like he's not a white supremacist and he's not trying to filter people into those beliefs but there are definitely other people trying to take advantage of his subscriber base and the fact that he consumes media from known alt-right personalities makes it easier for such a thing to happen.

    I ain't gonna call on youtube to suspend pewdiepie because LOL AT THAT HAPPENING but the dude's lost deals from Disney and Youtube Red/Premium because of his antics and obviously that didn't happen so he's gonna keep on keeping on.

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    I'd agree with that except his filtering and recommendations of content and their creators leads people to the alt-right and white supremacy. Jordan Peterson is rife full of sexism, racism and phrenology plus his whole lobster bullshit and breaking down explaining anything.

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    Young male gamers who like trolling are an easy target for conversion to MRA and other alt-right ideologies. This is one of those situations where it's legitimate to say that failure to clearly pick a side is de facto support for the other side and an abdication of responsibility to help combat a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    Young male gamers who like trolling are an easy target for conversion to MRA and other alt-right ideologies. This is one of those situations where it's legitimate to say that failure to clearly pick a side is de facto support for the other side and an abdication of responsibility to help combat a problem.

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    I just thought about Boogie and now I want to die.

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    At certain ages though it's not malicious. They just browse YouTube and Twitch then they see someone like Pew post Jordan or Shapiro so they watch it. And because they are teenage dumbasses, they think it's brilliant and that liking it makes them smart and woke. I have to thoroughly deprogram this lunacy from kids who aren't really prejudiced* but just have no training on how to process what they are fed.

    * I have had students who are legitimately aggrieved and too far gone, but its honestly like a 10:1 ratio.

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    Owen Benjamin was a shit comedian before he was alt-right. Nothing of value is lost by wiping his presence from the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    At certain ages though it's not malicious. They just browse YouTube and Twitch then they see someone like Pew post Jordan or Shapiro so they watch it. And because they are teenage dumbasses, they think it's brilliant and that liking it makes them smart and woke. I have to thoroughly deprogram this lunacy from kids who aren't really prejudiced* but just have no training on how to process what they are fed.

    * I have had students who are legitimately aggrieved and too far gone, but its honestly like a 10:1 ratio.
    So what is the training that they need? I'm actually curious for myself. I've had a feeling that I myself may be being swayed one way or the other and I'd like to prevent that from happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalhart View Post
    So what is the training that they need? I'm actually curious for myself. I've had a feeling that I myself may be being swayed one way or the other and I'd like to prevent that from happening.
    When was the last time you took 30min to read into a topic you were interested about? What was that topic?

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    I mean, I can't say it's been recently. Since the little guy was born my me time has been very lacking and when I do get time for me, I usually do something for enjoyment not for education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalhart View Post
    I mean, I can't say it's been recently. Since the little guy was born my me time has been very lacking and when I do get time for me, I usually do something for enjoyment not for education.
    Why do you think you're being radicalized then

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    I don't know that I am, but I don't have a laundry list of individuals I won't listen to based on what I'm being told about them. I'm getting the impression that this makes me a potential target of such radicalization or at least to be manipulated into thinking a specific way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalhart View Post
    I'm getting the impression that this makes me a potential target of such radicalization or at least to be manipulated into thinking a specific way.
    You say you're getting the impression, I say you've been assaulted by propaganda and algorithms for decades and are oblivious to it. Every time you opened Facebook, Instagram, turned on any news show, even local ones. You're an adult in the 21st century, there is no avoiding it. There is no ignoring it.

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