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    Iran has admitted to shooting down the Ukrainian civilian passenger plane, citing human error

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    Ukraine now demands punishment and compensation for airliner downed by Iran, as well as no delay in offering up those responsible. Lets see how this shakes up.

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    Gee hope they manage to negotiate something.

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    Heh. Lets see how Russia gets involved with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Heh. Lets see how Russia gets involved with this.
    Ive seen a couple Russian officials saying that because of how fast they determined this was a missile shoot down, that MH17 couldnt have been a Russian missile because of how long it took

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    So apparently there are protests occuring in Iran requesting accountability for the plane that they accidentally downed?

    I cannot even fathom Americans requesting that level of accountability for strangers that primarily were foreign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    So apparently there are protests occuring in Iran requesting accountability for the plane that they accidentally downed?

    I cannot even fathom Americans requesting that level of accountability for strangers that primarily were foreign.
    I thought the majority of passengers were Iranian.

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    To be fair, we can't even get accountability from people we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    So apparently there are protests occuring in Iran requesting accountability for the plane that they accidentally downed?

    I cannot even fathom Americans requesting that level of accountability for strangers that primarily were foreign.
    Well to be fair, it's just another excuse to protest the Allotoyah government. Its another stoke to the flame. President even tweeted in Farsi to encourage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    So apparently there are protests occuring in Iran requesting accountability for the plane that they accidentally downed?

    I cannot even fathom Americans requesting that level of accountability for strangers that primarily were foreign.


    And nearly everyone on that flight was of Iranian descent.

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    Eh, this is only a big deal cause iran doesn't have nukes. Russia did the same thing not long ago and no one did jack shit or complained loud enough to matter.

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    https://apnews.com/1b5f51dc8712b6fcddc2010bbd9de31f



    On the third day of protests within the country over the military shooting down a passenger plane, the police are now using tear gas and live rounds to disperse crowds.

    Iranians, already suffering under crippling U.S. sanctions, expressed shock and outrage over the plane crash that killed scores of young people. They also decried the misleading statements from top officials, who only admitted responsibility three days later in the face of mounting evidence.

    On Sunday night, protesters massed in Tehran’s Azadi, or Freedom, Square.

    Videos sent to the New York-based Center for Human Rights in Iran and later verified by The Associated Press show a crowd of demonstrators near Azadi Square fleeing as a tear gas canister lands among them. People cough and sputter while trying to escape the fumes, with one woman calling out in Farsi: “They fired tear gas at people! Azadi Square! Death to the dictator!”

    Another video shows a woman being carried away in the aftermath of the violence, a trail of blood visible on the ground. Those around her cry out that she has been shot in the leg.

    “Oh my God, she’s bleeding nonstop!” one person shouts. Another shouts: “Bandage it!”

    Photos and video after the incident show pools of blood on the sidewalk.

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    Well, shit.

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    https://apnews.com/40f1b9bd475d23bd5d2977ff2e473d7b

    Iran arrested "those responsible" for shooting down the passenger plane.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51114945

    They also arrested the guy who recorded the video of the plane being shot down.

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    FAIR AND BALANCED.

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    sometimes you really have to admire tyrannies

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    at least they dismissed the blasphemy case against Dead Mage

    #sensibleIran

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-52612511

    19 sailors are dead and 15 injured after a test firing of a new missile goes badly.

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    So given that Iran was an early adopter of coronavirus and seemed entirely unable to slow the spread or treat it, any idea how they are looking domestically?

    Do they have an immune population emerging? Is life returning to normal?

    The US's elected leaders have basically picked a slower version of Iran's path, so it seems relevant now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    So given that Iran was an early adopter of coronavirus and seemed entirely unable to slow the spread or treat it, any idea how they are looking domestically?

    Do they have an immune population emerging? Is life returning to normal?

    The US's elected leaders have basically picked a slower version of Iran's path, so it seems relevant now.
    The AP heard your question and no, they're still fucked.

    https://apnews.com/6c7715f300797502329f6117e1141503



    While crippling sanctions imposed by the U.S. government left the country ill-equipped to deal with the fast-moving virus, some medical professionals say government and religious leaders bear the brunt of the blame for allowing the virus to spread -- and for hiding how much it had spread.

    Those medical workers say they were defenseless to handle the contagion. And as a result, doctors and nurses in Iran have been hard hit by the virus. During the first 90 days of the virus outbreak alone, about one medical staffer died each day and dozens became infected.

    It is no secret that Iran has been hit hard by the coronavirus. Official government figures show that around 100,000 people were infected by the virus and around 6,500 have died. But a report by the research arm of Iran’s parliament said the number of cases could be eight to 10 times higher, making it among the hardest hit countries in the world. The report said the number of deaths could be 80% higher than officials numbers from the Health Ministry, about 11,700.

    The Iranian government is currently reporting a decline in the number of COVID-19 infections and deaths in many areas, even though local authorities are expanding cemeteries in places like Tehran where the municipal council said it had to add 10,000 new graves to its largest cemetery, Behesht e-Zahra.

    Iran’s leaders, several medical professionals said, delayed telling the public about the virus for weeks, even as hospitals were filling up with people suffering from symptoms linked to the virus. And even as doctors and other experts were warning the Iranian president to take radical action, the government resisted, fearing the impact on elections, national anniversaries, and the economy.

    One doctor interviewed by The Associated Press — who, like all medical workers interviewed for this story, spoke only on the condition that they not be named for fear of persecution — said he and his colleagues were even discouraged from using protective equipment. He said government officials claimed wearing masks would cause panic.

    The country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, proclaimed on March 10 that the doctors, nurses, and medical staffers who died in the fight against the coronavirus in Iran were “martyrs.” Pictures of deceased doctors have been placed alongside those of soldiers who were killed in the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, which claimed the lives of a million Iranians and Iraqis.

    A list compiled by a group of Iranian doctors found that a total of 126 medical staffers have died since the virus was first reported, mostly in the provinces of Gilan and Tehran, while over 2,070 contracted the virus. The AP verified 100 of the deaths by piecing together scattered news reports in local media outlets, statements from health institutions and social media messages of condolences.

    Iran reported its first two cases on Feb. 19 in the city of Qom — 140 kilometers (88 miles) south of Tehran and home of highly revered Shiite shrines. It would become the epicenter of the outbreak.

    The announcement apparently was made under some duress. A doctor there named Mohammed Molei filmed himself next to his bedridden brother, insisting that his brother be tested for the virus. That coincided with a visit by a Health Ministry delegation to the city.

    Two days after announcing the first cases, Iran held its parliamentary elections where thousands lined up to vote. That same day, doctors in Gilan — one of the worst hit areas in Iran — appealed to the governor for help, saying their hospitals were flooded with patients amid a shortage of masks and other protection equipment.

    “The health personnel of the province are exposed to a huge threat,” a letter sent by the doctors read.

    But government officials played down the danger of the virus, calling the physicians’ plea for a quarantine “medieval” and floating unfounded conspiracy theories that the U.S. created the coronavirus to promote a fear-mongering campaign.

    The feared paramilitary Revolutionary Guard kept health facilities under tight control and medical statistics were treated as top secret, the medical staffers said.

    Death certificates were not recording the coronavirus as the cause of deaths — either because not all severe cases were tested or just for the sake of keeping the numbers down. Thousands of unaccounted deaths were attributed to secondary causes like “heart attack” or “respiratory distress.”

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