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    make an assessment

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    That chick looks like a Disney animator drew her, I cannot get behind the argument that she doesn't look right for the role.

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    she doesn't look white and ginger to me

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    Thought ginger was orange haired

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    they didn't have orange hair technology in 1989

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    they didn't have orange hair technology in 1989
    Spit my tea. Great job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    It's about looks

    The only look that's changed is her skin tone

    Her skin tone is not important in any way so it doesnt matter if it gets changed. If that matters to you, then boy is that really telling about yourself.

    Do you follow those steps at all?

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    How many times do I have to say that any change would be wrong in my eyes? If it was the hair I'd be just as pissed, it just happens that skin is the only announced change here so far. The only thing it's telling me is that I loved the original character and that was the one I wanted to see in this movie. Do you follow these steps?

    Simba's design wasn't changed in his "live action", he simply looks more realistic. The skin of his voice actor had nothing to do with it, it's a stupid comparison to make. Ariel's look wasn't preserved, that's the difference. (I couldn't give two shits about teen Titans, I didn't even know that was a thing. Why would I have an opinion on stuff I'm not invested in?)

    As for the other jokes I'm not gonna comment any further, it's not worth it when all you guys do is take things out of context just to ridicule me. It's obvious you don't know what true racism is or even discrimination in general.
    Keep fighting your fight in the worst way possible.
    If this is the way we treat debates and differing opinions now feel free to ban me, I really don't care. Even mentioning enemies.... wow. I'm totally speechless.

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    The problem is that not a single person I can see said this Ariel was "better" and you made that the focus of your argument. If you're mad at the changes to appearance, get in line with every nerd who ever went to a comic book movie, but you made a huge deal out of something no one was saying.

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    He also couldn't find proof to back up his statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    He also couldn't find proof to back up his statements.
    (He only saw them in passing and can't remember where or you care so much you go find them) It doesn't exist.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Please tell me which live action Disney movie changed the look of their main character or cast people that looked nothing like the animated movie.
    Alice in Wonderland

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post

    Ariel's look wasn't preserved, that's the difference
    If she had shells and red hair and a purple flower, than I'd say it was just as preserved as the rest.

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    seriously tho not a single one of the adult Lannisters are golden blonde and it's the defining physical trait of their entire family, to such an extent it plays an important plot role, far more intrinsic to their identity than the skin color of a mythical sea creature.

    it's almost as though certain people place more emphasis on skin color than any other physical marker and will accept unfaithful representation of source material so long as the 'eh they're still white good enough' threshold is met

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post

    it's almost as though certain people place more emphasis on skin color than any other physical marker and will accept unfaithful representation of source material so long as the 'eh they're still white good enough' threshold is met
    This is the part I don't think they realize their missing. Like, no one cared about costume alterations, or height, or eye color, or anything. Those are "minor changes" whereas skin color is a "major change." And yet, they can't seem to fathom that the reason for this importance is rooted in racism to believe that skin color marks and important difference in a character.

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    Wasn't Lena Headey blonde at the start of the show?

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    yee they rocked the dirty blonde highlights in brunette hair angle for the start before going the eh fuck it route

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsudoku View Post
    Fucking LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    This is the part I don't think they realize their missing. Like, no one cared about costume alterations, or height, or eye color, or anything. Those are "minor changes" whereas skin color is a "major change." And yet, they can't seem to fathom that the reason for this importance is rooted in racism to believe that skin color marks and important difference in a character.
    This may be true, but it doesn't mean its racism. Unless we're using the watered down "racism" ya'll today love to toss out. In this specific instance, an instance closely related to childhood memories, its perfectly reasonable to assume people just have an attachment to the childhood Ariel they know, and prefer.

    Now, this doesn't apply to all complainers, obviously.

    (And I feel the need to once again point out - I'm okay with this change and have not once complained about her skin color)

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    i concur that it's not necessarily inherently racism, but people that find skin color a more intrinsic aspect of identity than literally any other physical marker (and often mental markers as characterization can change quite drastically in adaptations) should prolly do some soul-searching.

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    I figure just REALLY stopping and asking yourself why this matters is a good start and introspective we all need to do sometimes not even just on topics like this, I'd only ask if they come up with "not racism" we can accept their answer or at least consider it as a possibility.

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