2020 Democratic Primary Clown Car Special II: 365 Days of Busing

**Fiye** · 2019-09-13 16:02

The money well is starting to dry up for Kamala.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/13/weal...r&par=sharebar

**Yabby** · 2019-09-14 06:45

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

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I just don't get this shit. How are these debates changing anyone's views, as it is the same shit every debate and if you even look a little at this shit you should know where they stand on 99% of the issues. It's like the people that are "undecided " two weeks for election day. You are not undecided, you are a fucking moron that doesn't pay attention to shit.

**Byrthnoth** · 2019-09-14 09:02

I interpret the plots to mean that debates just serve to strengthen people's views on the candidates and, by virtue of putting them all on the same stage, give the non-frontrunner a perceived electability boost.

We are seeing the no opinion gap shrink due to exposure because not everyone is a super high info voter.

**Salodin** · 2019-09-14 11:31

Originally Posted by Yabby

I just don't get this shit. How are these debates changing anyone's views, as it is the same shit every debate and if you even look a little at this shit you should know where they stand on 99% of the issues. It's like the people that are "undecided " two weeks for election day. You are not undecided, you are a fucking moron that doesn't pay attention to shit.

You're attributing something to that poll that it isnt claiming. It's strictly a favorability poll, not anything else. There are too many candidates in the field, and it's so early, that unless you're reading on politics every day you shouldnt have a strong opinion on anyone until after the debates. Which is what were seeing here. Most of america doesnt look at politics outside of the general lol.

The news worthy part is how much more favorable warren got after the debate. I'd also mention Harris but she isnt polling well anyways so sorry bae

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**archibaldcrane** · 2019-09-14 11:41

Originally Posted by Yabby

I just don't get this shit. How are these debates changing anyone's views, as it is the same shit every debate and if you even look a little at this shit you should know where they stand on 99% of the issues. It's like the people that are "undecided " two weeks for election day. You are not undecided, you are a fucking moron that doesn't pay attention to shit.

It's like 6 months til Iowa, most people aren't paying attention. So if this was the first debate you've seen, it gives you impressions of candidates you haven't formed an opinion on yet.

Hell, I haven't even seen a debate yet.

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**Byrthnoth** · 2019-09-14 11:53

Sucks that the next debate is going to have a lot more people again.

**guartz** · 2019-09-14 12:09

The Trump's Socialism will kill the economy banner flying over the debate area was the best thing that happened this debate.

**archibaldcrane** · 2019-09-17 10:05

Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina have 157 pledged delgates in the Dem primary combined.

California has 416 by itself.

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**Andalusian girls** · 2019-09-17 12:35

Kamala failing to meet the statewide delegate threshold in her own state

**Andalusian girls** · 2019-09-17 12:36

and i know you're aware of this but the primary value of the early 4 states is not the delegates allocated but the intense media focus and altering of popular perception that accompanies victories in them. nothing more alters polling than success.

**BerenTebogo** · 2019-09-17 13:18

Went to Yang rally yesterday. Was pretty cool.

**archibaldcrane** · 2019-09-17 13:34

Originally Posted by Andalusian girls

and i know you're aware of this but the primary value of the early 4 states is not the delegates allocated but the intense media focus and altering of popular perception that accompanies victories in them. nothing more alters polling than success.

Sure. Need Warren or Bernie to win at least two of three of Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, get Buttigieg, Beto and Harris to drop out before Super Tuesday, and hoover up those libs while sowing doubt among black moderates in the south that Biden can win.

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**6souls** · 2019-09-17 14:25

**Salodin** · 2019-09-17 14:40

Surely Harris will drop out after she doesnt even break the top 3 in her own state, right?

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**kuronosan** · 2019-09-17 15:17

Been reading in a few sources now that people might not turn up if Warren wins over Bernie because she's "corporate backed".

I thought Sanders supporters were smitten with Liz?

**Tokitoki** · 2019-09-17 15:24

Bernie bros are just bitter and don't want him to lose to two different old white ladies.

**Eurell** · 2019-09-17 15:45

Sounds more like people from the right trying to stir up shit.

**archibaldcrane** · 2019-09-17 16:13

Originally Posted by kuronosan

Been reading in a few sources now that people might not turn up if Warren wins over Bernie because she's "corporate backed".

I thought Sanders supporters were smitten with Liz?

Some twitter berners are grasping at anything they can to tear Warren down, but these attacks from the left just aren't persuasive for anyone other than people already firmly in Bernie's camp.

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**AoE** · 2019-09-17 16:20

Aren't some of these same fucks that voted for Trump because they didn't get their dude? Fuck them.

**archibaldcrane** · 2019-09-17 17:22

Mostly some of them would've voted for Stein, the Bernie > Trump voters weren't leftists.

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