Time for FFXI "Classic"?

[Kanriel]

As someone that's said they would play a classic FFXI... I think a lot of people are making the assumption that the game would release exactly as it was at some point from 2003-2007. I don't think such a game would stay afloat. I think some changes would certainly need to be made for it to have a chance of success (by which I mean the game is profitable enough for SE to actually engage in making/maintaining it). However, I don't think SE would ever actually want to invest the time and resources needed to reboot a classic version of FFXI.

Similar to the private servers that exist now, certain changes would HAVE to be made for it to be feasible. For example, any decently populated private server has level sync that usually is unlimited or within a large level range that scales on population. FFXI without level sync only worked when thousands of people were playing it on the same server. Maybe if the game had a huge resurgence it could work, but that is highly unlikely, so level sync would need to be the backstop.

WoW classic is very unique in its ability to still work in the modern era because of how the game innovated the genre. I am sure many of you who were older FFXI players remember hearing that WoW had quests that awarded EXP and were surprised just like I was. At the time it was a pretty revolutionary idea, and one that allows the leveling aspect of the game to be played completely solo if someone wishes. That is the biggest issue with an FFXI classic - Leveling requires other bodies, even with the implementation of level sync.

This fact is why FFXI classic will never happen, and why it would likely fail if it did. I'd still try it though, of course I would.

Solid point. From all I've read, WoW Classic launched exactly as it did originally. If FFXI did, but didn't have the numbers it did back then, it would have a very, very rough go at it. This game always needed a solid influx of people and the second people hit endgame faster than new blood arrived (mid-ToAU era) it started causing major issues and led to people quitting and the population dropping.

Personally I'd love for someone to recognize the spirit of XI and make a brand new game built as a successor to it. It's the only new MMO I'd likely give a chance. But I doubt that happens, so I'll just be diddling around in XI, taking occasional breaks, for a few more years.

[Isiolia]

Personally I'd love for someone to recognize the spirit of XI and make a brand new game built as a successor to it. It's the only new MMO I'd likely give a chance. But I doubt that happens, so I'll just be diddling around in XI, taking occasional breaks, for a few more years.

Pantheon has so far been pushing hard to set itself apart via the sort of earlier MMO design ideals that, on the good days, 75 cap FFXI succeeded at. So, it may be one to keep tabs on.

[Kipling]

I am also keeping tabs on Pantheon for the same reason but at this point I highly doubt it will ever actually see the light of day.

[Silenka]

I didn't know about Pantheon before, looks cool...hope it releases someday.

[Gredival]

Nobody nostalgic enough to return to FFXI classic has enough time for classic FFXI.

We old now.

I'd make the time.

I try to tell people. You do not miss the game. You miss that particular time in your life when you got to play as much as you did with other friends and like minded people. There are many f2p private servers you can hop on if you want to test it for yourself. Most of y’all will quit before you make it to Jeuno.

I miss the exclusion of taking a King that no one else could get.

What is it about current XI you feel doesn't exist that 75 XI had?

On the overall, current XI has everything 75 XI did. The biggest shift is that the timesinks of the 75 era was largely getting to endgame, whereas the timesink of current XI is at endgame.

The current endgame timesinks in XI aren't zero-sum exclusionary. There is no item that has the same rarity, and puts you against the rest of your server for the mere opportunity at a drop, like old Defending Ring and KB

[Gredival]

There was N O T H I N G good about 75 era.

Being able to solo all 1-99 content is insanely better.

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I will nuke your campaign so fast you will wish you were as likable as Hillary at the end of it.

[Zealot]

I will nuke your campaign so fast you will wish you were as likable as Hillary at the end of it.

Kings were terrible!

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[Gredival]

Kings were terrible!

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Kings were the only thing XI did right.

Little offtopic but I'd heard you gotten banned off of FFXIah Spicy. It takes some real skill to get hammered off those forums I've seen so I'm wondering who you pissed off to obtain that.

Not trying to be an ass. Just an honest question.

I never got banned off the entire forum but I was frequently kicked off threads arguing about Kings vs. post-Abyssea content. Their mods definitely had no qualms about using shadow-bans to end debates in the way they wanted.

[D44kpunk]

I never got banned off the entire forum but I was frequently kicked off threads arguing about Kings vs. post-Abyssea content. Their mods definitely had no qualms about using shadow-bans to end debates in the way they wanted.

[Gredival]

I never wanted to kick you from politics. I wanted to kick you from the forums writ large after you got an insufferable victim complex in spam.

[Mythe_Seraph]

Wanting classic FFXI is something that Dark and Gred can come together on.

[Gredival]

Wanting classic FFXI is something that Dark and Gred can come together on.

End Game is strictly business.

[Mythe_Seraph]

Hey man I’m with you.

And this time...

It’s personal.

Am I right or what

[NynJa]

End Game is strictly business.

yup, all business, no pleasure.

[Mythe_Seraph]

If you don’t gain pleasure from your business you’re not in the right line of work my dude.

[Karbuncle]

That’s kinda been ... that’s the... oh lawd jaesus

[Mythe_Seraph]

Take it easy my man.

[NynJa]

If you don’t gain pleasure from your business you’re not in the right line of work my dude.

let me know when people are getting paid camping kings.

[AoE]

I mean technically weren't gil sellers paid to?

[Karbuncle]

Take it easy my man.

Scientifically impossible.