Predisent Donald J. Skroob: Episode X: Purple Raining to Impeachment

[Kaslo]

http://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/stat...17310949068801

[Salodin]

Guartz, no one here defended FISA. All were saying is there was no political motivation to start the trump investigation, and even with fisa abuse the fbi had legitimate reasons for starting the investigation.

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[guartz]

The final conclusion of the report is that the FBI exaggerated their case in order to obtain a FISA warrant, and it meticulously breaks down how, but there was no other misconduct or political animus toward the Trump campaign.

Harp on the point about the FISA warrant all you want, I will agree with you, but it won't change that every other point Trump has raised was a lie.

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You are right, I don't know if what Trump claims is true or not. I just suspect it is.

If Durham's investigation concludes with similar points I will concede the point, but it seems unlikely since it's now a criminal one. Could be something weaksauce like Mueller, where he caught some guys lying if it turns just into that I'll also concede the point because accusing one political party of politically weaponizing FBI and CIA is a serious charge and in my view needs more proof then some shmuck didn't remember a date right.

[guartz]

Guartz, no one here defended FISA. All were saying is there was no political motivation to start the trump investigation, and even with fisa abuse the fbi had legitimate reasons for starting the investigation.

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I mean, you just effectively agreed the investigation should have ended in 2016.

[Zealot]

weaksauce like Mueller

When am I allowed to start using personal attacks?

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[kuronosan]

When am I allowed to start using personal attacks?

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Why do you bother? After previously stated post it's obvious how he operates.

[guartz]

When am I allowed to start using personal attacks?

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*sigh* Think of it objectively like you are with IG report.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...nts-grand-jury


"So far, no Trump associates have been specifically charged with any crimes relating to helping Russia interfere with the 2016 election."
Just so we clear I'm quoting that from the article above.

[guartz]

If you can read the IG report and say "The final conclusion of the report is that the FBI exaggerated their case in order to obtain a FISA warrant, and it meticulously breaks down how, but there was no other misconduct or political animus toward the Trump campaign."

I can look at the Mueller report and his arrests and say "There was never any russian collusion in the Trump campaign"

I mean, FBI was just accidently finding other, not related crimes and arresting those people. I can say that, because it's the truth.

[Zealot]

Collusion was not the charge being investigated, obstruction of justice was. That issue specifically is the one where Mueller declined to either condemn or exonerate, on the grounds that as traditional prosecution was not an option it would be improper to draw legal conclusions that could influence future prosecution and the only recommendation for remedy was Congressional action.

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[Zealot]

The Mueller investigation only came about for the purpose of determining if the President had tried to interfere in the FBI's investigation of collusion and concluded that he had, on 9 occasions as President and once before taking office.

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[Byrthnoth]

Skeptical of the FBI and don't like they way they bend the truth to do whatever they want?

Welcum 2 the resistance MLK makes sandwiches every Thursday



Think that the report somehow validates a Trumpist world view?

Sorry ur dum

[guartz]

Collusion was not the charge being investigated, obstruction of justice was. That issue specifically is the one where Mueller declined to either condemn or exonerate, on the grounds that as traditional prosecution was not an option it would be improper to draw legal conclusions that could influence future prosecution and the only recommendation for remedy was Congressional action.

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Don't rewrite history, you don't need to lie. Mueller was investigating russian collusion of which he cleared the president. On obstruction He, in his own damn words, said his team made NO determination on obstruction. Because his team could not bring those charges to the president. But making NO determination doesn't mean there wasn't obstruction or was obstruction.

[Salodin]

I mean, you just effectively agreed the investigation should have ended in 2016.

You didn't read anything I typed did you...

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[guartz]

Skeptical of the FBI and don't like they way they bend the truth to do whatever they want?

Welcum 2 the resistance MLK makes sandwiches every Thursday



Think that the report somehow validates a Trumpist world view?

Sorry ur dum

I wasn't the one chanting it's Mueller Time on these forums.

[Zealot]

Don't rewrite history, you don't need to lie. Mueller was investigating russian collusion of which he cleared the president. On obstruction He, in his own damn words, said his team made NO determination on obstruction. Because his team could not bring those charges to the president. But making NO determination doesn't mean there wasn't obstruction or was obstruction.

I'm not rewriting history, stop being stupid. Comey's firing was the direct cause of the investigation, and the reason for that was to determine if the firing was because the President was trying to obstruct the Russia investigation. You can deny that all you want but it's only going to prove you either know nothing or are actively resisting the truth.

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[Zealot]

Are you contesting that Mueller's investigation began as a result of Comey being fired? And you're accusing me of rewriting history and lying?

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[Lokus]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1...031657984?s=20

Very fine people.

[Dimmauk]

The party that brought us the Patriot Act is upset one of their guys was getting surveillanced. LOL

[guartz]

Are you contesting that Mueller's investigation began as a result of Comey being fired? And you're accusing me of rewriting history and lying?

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Nope, just this

The Mueller investigation only came about for the purpose of determining if the President had tried to interfere in the FBI's investigation

[Zealot]

And you see no disconnect between those two things.

Done!

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