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  1. #301
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    even if luka becomes the face of the nba for the next 10 years, i can still kinda get behind the ayton pick.

    like, luka is amazing, i get it, he could reel off 5 triple double seasons in a row in his prime. but if ayton is a legit 2-way player then that's more than enough to justify him as the #1 pick. bigs who have the potential to be mobile p/r defenders are so hard to find.

    bagley i still think was a mistake.

    unfortunately this is just the way sports work. dumb people in charge doing dumb things.

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    i hear what you guys are saying re Ayton but 1, his defense is atrocious he's a looooooooong fuckin way from being a 2-way player and will prolly never be as good as Embiid is right now, and 2, Luka is right next to a 30 point triple double average in his second year. i mean, come on. it's only a dozen games in and his body could implode, but, cooooooome ooooooooooon.

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    he's 4th in the league in PPG 10th in RPG 2nd in APG 4th in PER the advanced stats love him he's clutch and the Mavs are winning with a fairly questionable roster

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    commmmeee onnnnnnnnn

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    well shit i still ain't saying suns made the right pick

    just, i mean it's justifiable lol

    at least you didn't trade him

    (sorry, moss)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    i hear what you guys are saying re Ayton but 1, his defense is atrocious he's a looooooooong fuckin way from being a 2-way player and will prolly never be as good as Embiid is right now, and 2, Luka is right next to a 30 point triple double average in his second year. i mean, come on. it's only a dozen games in and his body could implode, but, cooooooome ooooooooooon.
    I'm trying to be nice bc it stings a little less when I hear nice things about Trae

    It might be purely hypothetical but that's better than nothing! Trae will never be a two way player for example, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    well shit i still ain't saying suns made the right pick

    just, i mean it's justifiable lol

    at least you didn't trade him

    (sorry, moss)
    But we got Cam Reddish!!!!!!!!!!

    Who I'm not giving up on, but has been atrocious so far offensively. Watching him is like watching my own kid, I get so excited over the smallest success

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    Yeah y'all are tripping on thinking Ayton could be a great two way player. He's young and could obviously improve, but his defensive skills and instincts were a huge question mark going into the draft.

    The Suns defense has improved notably this year (even Booker is playing acceptable D) under Monty, so maybe Ayton will be alright going forward, but I wouldn't bet on it.

    Gonna say tho, the Suns still need to figure some stuff out on D going forward. When I went to the game last week the Lakers just kept switching Bron onto Oubre and Bron would bully the shit out of him. If that's a potential playoff matchup this year the Suns can't rely on hitting 50% of their 3s to keep the game tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Yeah y'all are tripping on thinking Ayton could be a great two way player. He's young and could obviously improve, but his defensive skills and instincts were a huge question mark going into the draft.
    He's big, long, strong, and agile. He objectively "could" be dominant on defense, which is what we said. No one said he would be or even that he is likely to be. "Could" is how his ceiling is determined, even if it's only a 5% chance.



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    yeah not sure why anyone would be "tripping" over the idea that player with his athleticism could eventually grow into a great defender.

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    Defense in the NBA boils down to effort more than anything else.

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    Luka just outscored the Dubs 22-16 in the 1st quarter (while also getting halfway to a triple double with 5 & 5)

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    Ben Simmons hit a corner 3 for the first trey of his career

    spicy night in the NBA

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    Those 2 and Mamool Ja Morant will make for an entertaining year. Oh yeah, Zion will be back soon™.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    Ben Simmons hit a corner 3 for the first trey of his career

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    zion, MJM, and luka will pave way for the next 15 years of NBA greatness

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    Hachimura has looked pretty good so far too

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    Luka is the 1st player to outscore, outrebound, and out-assist a team in a quarter since AI in 2003

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    i almost feel like for moss's sake we should not bring up luka for the rest of the season.

    just literally pretend he doesn't exist

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    Damn. Good game Celtics vs Clippers

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