SPOILERS Final Fantasy 7 Remake SPOILER THREAD - CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT

[Gokulo]

Oh wow, seems I missed it on my play through then

[BerenTebogo]

I think you need to do every sidequest or something idk

[Gokulo]

Yup, just checked and that's the case. Thought I did all of them, oh well, will get it on hard

[Koul]

Beat it. I'm pissy so gunna unload my bitchy gripes.

This definitely does not do a good job explaining things for newbies. People that have never played the original are going to have no idea who Zack is, what Jenova is and who this Sephiroth person is and why Cloud hates him so much. And for people that did play the OG one, yeah neutral Destiny Ghosts is kind of lame

Gameplay later on is an absolute mess imo. I'm probably just terrible as shit at it though but I can't stand getting punished by enemies from their normal attacks and ATB attacks, oh, and all mobs seem to have perma turbo haste. Getting ping-ponged across battlefields isn't fun. AI sucks. Dodge is useless cuz it doesn't activate fast enough or go far enough. They should've given a late game materia where you can block cancel moves or something. Ever damn -ra and -aga spell has a cast time AND start up so it gives you double the chances to either get interrupted or miss completely if the mob just moves slightly out of the way. But oh, when they cast a -aga spell, don't worry. It'll stun ya in place so you'll get blasted with it

The OST is great.
Madame M is amazing.
Johnny was funny

bitchbitchbitch end

[theshun]

Beat it. I'm pissy so gunna unload my bitchy gripes.

This definitely does not do a good job explaining things for newbies. People that have never played the original are going to have no idea who Zack is, what Jenova is and who this Sephiroth person is and why Cloud hates him so much.

The first or second time we see Sephiroth, we learn that Seph killed Cloud's mom. Around Reactor 5, we see a flashback of Tifa's dad next to Seph's sword, which Tifa picks up and walks away. Those two events are enough for Cloud.

[Cantih]

Yeah, you see exactly as much, if not more, as you do in the original game at the same points in time. A new player now knows as much about what's going on as a new player in the original.
At the end of Midgar in the original, you do not know who Zack is, who Sephiroth is, or WTF Jenova is at this point.


Now, regarding changes in the next games.
I could live with it, IF, the games include a mode where you play through an extended (side quests, new towns/areas are fine) but CANON game, where no plot points are changed and at least everything from the original is there.
They can design as many additional story paths and changes as they like, as long as I have the option to play through the updated original game.

[Gokulo]

I thought just rushing through Hard will be enough to get the extra scriptures but it seems they might be tucked away, finished chapters 8 and 9 and missing some in them :/

[Gokulo]

Interesting point I saw in a video regarding the ending, the name FF7R and future games:

Spoiler: show

Basically, the video theorizes that, considering the ending heavily implies we've entered a different timeline, the game is called FF7R without any Part 1 and stuff because while this remade the game we knew, anything that comes after will be a completely new experience and thus will have some new naming convention.

[Abandon]

Some of yalls gripes overlook the fact that a lot of information you wanted to see, we didnt get until after midgar. relax. they'll do the story well enough, but you cant think that after just now escaping, we're gonna know how this all connects to literally anything we all know from what we learned after this point, or from other games.

[Cantih]

I've been reading around elsewhere, and I saw the perfect comparison. The back half of chapter 18 effects the impression of the game to the same degree as Mass Effect 3's ending.

[Akiyama]

I've been reading around elsewhere, and I saw the perfect comparison. The back half of chapter 18 effects the impression of the game to the same degree as Mass Effect 3's ending.

as long as it's not connected to that other Mass Effect game, it's okay lol

[BerenTebogo]

Was there this much stuff about a war with Wutai in the original?

[Koyangi]

It was mentioned, but not necessarily to this degree or even this early in the game iirc.

[chazzyphizzle]

they'd better make wutai a bit bigger because as it stands it would make absolutely no sense they could have a competitive war with shinra lol

[chazzyphizzle]

what a weird fucking game. gameplay was fun enough, music was great, the last chapter was utterly incomprehensible.

[BerenTebogo]

Man they are really gearing up to just take this game off the fucking rails from here on out arent they?

I dont like the dementors and I dont like feeling like we are going to get a completely different game by the time we are done with this.

Gripes:
Day 1 ps4 textures are awful. Awful. I’m not usually a snob about this but it is very bad.

Battle system. Clunky, shitty camera, LBs can miss. This isn’t a random ARPG, it is FF7. Just have the LB be forced hit for fucks sake.

Targeting system.

The destiny storyline.

The sheer number of forced “slow down” moments. Dreading that for a replay.

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Like, I enjoyed it. I will play it again. I want the next parts to come out ASAP. But this isn’t what I was hoping for tbh.

[Cantih]

Basically, I give the game a 7.5/10
If chapter 18.5 didn't exist, I'd give it 9.5/10
If that, and the AI was more useful, blocking/dodging were improved, some texture, animation (non-unique sidequest NPCs have some BAD mouth animations), and voice acting spots were fixed (a few off deliveries) and some missed opportunities were filled in, I'd give it a 10/10.

All that and no dementors, it'd be 11/10.

[BerenTebogo]

Basically, I give the game a 7.5/10
If chapter 18.5 didn't exist, I'd give it 9.5/10
If that, and the AI was more useful, blocking/dodging were improved, some texture, animation (non-unique sidequest NPCs have some BAD mouth animations), and voice acting spots were fixed (a few off deliveries) and some missed opportunities were filled in, I'd give it a 10/10.

All that and no dementors, it'd be 11/10.

The AI is really so bad and blocking and dodging yeah, very bad.

The whole “we are literally telling you that Aeris isn’t gonna die. Suck on it.” thing is really bugging me.

[chazzyphizzle]

i have a real fuckin problem with how they designed the post game stuff too

[Abandon]

counterstance is fucking broken and i love it