George Floyd (II): Say His Name

[Andalusian girls]

what are the logistics of hanging oneself exactly? is there a toppled stool beneath them? a nearby ledge high enough? if not how the hell would one kill himself like this?

the girl i knew in high school who did it tied the knot then stepped off a tree branch

[kuronosan]

what are the logistics of hanging oneself exactly? is there a toppled stool beneath them? a nearby ledge high enough? if not how the hell would one kill himself like this?

It's a tree. You can climb it and jump.

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[Roranora]

all my suicides i've known have been with a firearm so forgive my lacking imagination

[arus2001]

Would also say most suicides are intentionally done outside of the public eye precisely because many feel ashamed, weak, vulnerable, and don't want to be a burden to others by delaying the finding of their body if at all possible. The implication these were all done voluntarily by the deceased to send some kind of message is a pretty shit take. What's otherwise been a historically racist act at a point where racist emboldening has probably been at its highest since the Civil War should be enough to at least cast some doubt, but here we are.

Just gonna call it now, there are some shitlords on Facebook, Discord, or whatever, plotting and sharing tips for successfully pulling off these kinds of attacks if it's not actually disgruntled cops themselves.

[6souls]

Well since you are all theory crafting about this guy, what if cops let him run. Now this guy knows he is going to jail for a long long time, what if he ran back home and killed his ex-wife who put him in jail for beating his kids.

Well he could have harmed someone else, he was drunk and extremely violent. Not to say he deserved to die, but he should not have gotten away as that could be dangerous.

Separated at birth?

[Kaslo]

Would also say most suicides are intentionally done outside of the public eye precisely because many feel ashamed, weak, vulnerable, and don't want to be a burden to others by delaying the finding of their body if at all possible. The implication these were all done voluntarily by the deceased to send some kind of message is a pretty shit take. What's otherwise been a historically racist act at a point where racist emboldening has probably been at its highest since the Civil War should be enough to at least cast some doubt, but here we are.

Just gonna call it now, there are some shitlords on Facebook, Discord, or whatever, plotting and sharing tips for successfully pulling off these kinds of attacks if it's not actually disgruntled cops themselves.

Yeah the kid that did it while I was in high school did it in his own room, and apparently on a doorknob

[archibaldcrane]

Yeah the kid that did it while I was in high school did it in his own room, and apparently on a doorknob

The seated hanging

That's when you know they really wanted out

[Karbuncle]

Would also say most suicides are intentionally done outside of the public eye precisely because many feel ashamed, weak, vulnerable, and don't want to be a burden to others by delaying the finding of their body if at all possible. The implication these were all done voluntarily by the deceased to send some kind of message is a pretty shit take. What's otherwise been a historically racist act at a point where racist emboldening has probably been at its highest since the Civil War should be enough to at least cast some doubt, but here we are.

Just gonna call it now, there are some shitlords on Facebook, Discord, or whatever, plotting and sharing tips for successfully pulling off these kinds of attacks if it's not actually disgruntled cops themselves.

I guess I'll keep an eye out for the follows ups myself because something tells me if evidence points to suicide it won't be posted here.

[kuronosan]

I guess I'll keep an eye out for the follows ups myself because something tells me if evidence points to suicide it won't be posted here.

Why wouldn't it be

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[Zealot]

I guess I'll keep an eye out for the follows ups myself because something tells me if evidence points to suicide it won't be posted here.

I've been the one posting them and I've listed each one as a suicide.

[Dimmauk]

Has there been any progress on investigations for ANY of them?

No, but the investigation into the shake shack attempted murder was completed very quickly

[Kaslo]

No, but the investigation into the shake shack attempted murder was completed very quickly

But when are we getting an investigation of McDonalds and their McMuffins?

[Karbuncle]

Why wouldn't it be

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Oh right I forgot Guartz.

I've been the one posting them and I've listed each one as a suicide.

Do you believe they were suicides?

[kuronosan]

As someone who deals with suicidal people in the regular trust me I'm the first person to go "it was definitely suicide and it fits" which is why I'm skeptical. If evidence comes out to the contrary I'd say so without hesitation.

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[Roranora]

they might be suicides but they ain't your grandma's suicides. these are some ableist-ass suiciders muscle upping into the trees and doing noosed gainers off the top

[Karbuncle]

As someone who deals with suicidal people in the regular trust me I'm the first person to go "it was definitely suicide and it fits" which is why I'm skeptical. If evidence comes out to the contrary I'd say so without hesitation.

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Then I was wrong about the quality of your character, so I hope.

I don't know if it was Suicide, and I admit I'm skeptical myself because who wouldn't be. Here's the but from me, I could definitely see how publicly killing yourself in a way that is historically a racist act would send a pretty damn clear message about racism. Most suicides are extremely private as you say, but there are instances where people use suicide as a political and public tool, mainly in protest, Its certainly rare but what we're dealing with right now seems like one of those extenuating circumstances that make it possible for me to not just go straight to "Racist cop cover up".

Self-immolation is really the only one I can think of off the top of my head. I know its a stretch, but yah.

[Roranora]

when self-immolation comes to the states then we protesting for real

[Zealot]

I believe they are auspicious but calling them anything other than suicides without proof is irresponsible.

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[kuronosan]

For the African American community committing suicide by hanging isn't typical.

It's why I remain skeptical. But suicide is suicide.

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[synistar]

I have been following the ones in California. Los Angeles and San Bernardino Sheriff departments did quickly rule out foul play in their respective jurisdictions but saved face by deferring cause of death until after the medical examiners performed autopsies.

The issue with Palmdale though is that region of LA county along with Lancaster to the north have had a significant amounts of publicly covered racial tensions over the past 2 decades. Like last year there was this incident with teachers in an elementary school - https://ktla.com/news/local-news/rep...ed-with-noose/

So I'll be patient with these investigations, particularly the Palmdale one since the CA attorney general and the FBI are also investigating.