{COVID-19} My Body, My Choice V: We HaD tHe CuRe In FeBrUaRy

[archibaldcrane]

A less extreme version of the argument I was making yesterday:

https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status...910791168?s=19

[Athas]

I feel like the fact that no one did answers that question somewhat.

[Byrthnoth]

Testing for efficacy and then safety sequentially is slower than testing for them at the same time.

[archibaldcrane]

I feel like the fact that no one did answers that question somewhat.

Is the answer "sclerotic institutions and politicians who run them are incapable of assessing and implementing the correct course of action in a timely fashion"?

[NynJa]

Ah yes, every first world country is run by a team of "sclerotic institutions and politicians who run them are incapable of assessing and implementing the correct course of action in a timely fashion"

[Drai]

I dunno what is even being argued here, no one with a brain is going to accept using a vaccine on themselves or their family that was made in 2 days without proper testing.

[arus2001]

Counter theory: Those guys actually made Covid and wanted to profit off it.

[Vaspinne]

I dunno what is even being argued here, no one with a brain is going to accept using a vaccine on themselves or their family that was made in 2 days without proper testing.

I've spoken to people who are very pro-vaccine who are saying that they don't plan on rushing to try and get the first round or two of vaccines right away cause they're worried they're being rushed out and not fully tested properly yet and that's with what we have happening right now, let alone if what Archi is arguing for

[Drai]

I've spoken to people who are very pro-vaccine who are saying that they don't plan on rushing to try and get the first round or two of vaccines right away cause they're worried they're being rushed out and not fully tested properly yet and that's with what we have happening right now, let alone if what Archi is arguing for

I'm of the same mindset, I'm waiting for a while before I get it.

[NynJa]

I've spoken to people who are very pro-vaccine who are saying that they don't plan on rushing to try and get the first round or two of vaccines right away cause they're worried they're being rushed out and not fully tested properly yet and that's with what we have happening right now, let alone if what Archi is arguing for

On top of all that, his entire argument is based on knowing that covid would kill 1.47 million people. On March 1st, we were still under 3 thousand worldwide.

[Vaspinne]

As a regular civilian, even in Canada, I doubt we'll even get a chance at the first few rounds. Front line medical workers and high risk people first, followed by influential rich people and faux influential rich people (instagram influencers and people in entertainment and shit), followed by the rest of us plebs

[kuronosan]

Because you need to test the vaccine for safety.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Bleach kills bacteria on contact. You don't drink bleach because you have the plague. And knowing that it's bleach, you wouldn't. Now imagine you have a substance you've never ingested that could kill it or it could kill you either now or after an undetermined period of time because it's untested.

You'd be stupid to drink it.

[archibaldcrane]

COVID has killed ~1 in 1000 Americans. If you give the vaccine to 10,000 people in a safety trial and 0 of them die in a month

It's time to fucking go

[Tyrath]

I was really hoping this dumb take had died with the other thread.

[archibaldcrane]

I dunno what is even being argued here, no one with a brain is going to accept using a vaccine on themselves or their family that was made in 2 days without proper testing.

The vaccine that was made in 2 days has already been given to tens of thousands of people "without proper testing"

[archibaldcrane]

And again

I'm not saying make it mandatory

I'm saying once you clear the basic "does it kill more than COVID" hurdle, make it available.

Because COVID killed and continues killing a ridiculous number of people.

[archibaldcrane]

It's like self-driving cars. You don't have to make them 100% safe. You have to make them safer than the status quo to justify their deployment.

[Tyrath]

Archi is gonna dig his way to china at this rate.

[archibaldcrane]

Is China a place where COVID-19 isn't a problem anymore?

oh it is yeah ill keep digging

[Drai]

Covid kills 1 in 1000 americans, but the vaccine only kills 1 in 900, it's better then the status quo so let's go with it.