Muh Guns, Too

**Lucavi** · 2021-06-14 11:42

Oh it absolutely goes beyond that. We have a nation where half of what you hear from your leaders is a combination of "Fear your neighbor; fear the other; fear everyone and carry guns to protect what's yours.". The constant fear-mongering, the sense of "American exceptionalism" that is pushed by marketing, trying to make everyone feel good about themself so they'll buy or vote this way or that, and good ol' lack of anger management and a lack of hindsight over one's actions leads to all of this.

Every human on every square inch of land on the surface of the planet has it within them to do these things, but only in the U.S. do you have the sheer access to firearms to shoot your neighbor and the fearmongering coming from politicians swearing that everyone that doesn't look like you is out to take what's yours or fuck your wife/daughter.

The politics of fear is disgusting, but its on the second page of "how to secure votes from conservative people". A lack of general trust among the tribe goes beyond the human experience of tribalism, so how better to break down that tribalism than by breaking down what makes an American an American beyond living together. Class, race, religion, politics: even fucking favorite sports team can be thrown out there in terms of "fear the other: carry a gun to protect your stuff (and keep the lobby happy)".

**Daydreamer** · 2021-06-14 14:22

To add to that point, a lot of the fearmongering seems to be leading to simply viewing anyone not in your camp as less human. Being able to dehumanize an entire group of people makes it wayyyyyy easier for someone to be ok with them being shot.

**kuronosan** · 2021-06-15 05:35

Not only that, when laws exist that make it so murderers can say "I FEARED FOR MY LIFE AND DEFENDED MYSELF" human nature dictates someone will use that as a loophole to kill someone else.

The average person is not smart and posting on message boards about politics, science, and games. They're in forums talking about guns, boobs, or the weather in France. Complex critical thinking is not their forte.

**Lokus** · 2021-06-26 12:40

https://news.yahoo.com/police-man-sh...231447389.html

Gunman with a shotgun shoots and kills Cop 1 that came to investigate a suspicious person then proceeds to replace his shotgun with an AR-15
Civilian in the area shoots and kills the Gunman then picks up his rifle.
Cop 2 arrives and shoots Civilian that was holding Gunman's rifle.

**6souls** · 2021-06-26 12:45

There are no good guys with guns

**Xno Kappa** · 2021-06-26 18:37

Originally Posted by Lokus

https://news.yahoo.com/police-man-sh...231447389.html

Gunman with a shotgun shoots and kills Cop 1 that came to investigate a suspicious person then proceeds to replace his shotgun with an AR-15
Civilian in the area shoots and kills the Gunman then picks up his rifle.
Cop 2 arrives and shoots Civilian that was holding Gunman's rifle.

Lmao

**Lucavi** · 2021-06-26 19:29

Cops also said that the guy they shot was a hero for shooting the bad guy, even though they shot the good guy. They also didn't initially release that the hero died OR (obviously) that they shot him.

The dude who died, though... he really did take down the shooter. Shot at him 6 times and I believe hit him 4 of 6. His mistake was having the shooter's AR in his hands when the responding officer arrived and shot him. They're absolutely going to claim that it was a bang-bang situation (pun intended) and that things happened extremely quickly.

**TsingTao** · 2021-06-26 23:36

Originally Posted by Lokus

https://news.yahoo.com/police-man-sh...231447389.html

Gunman with a shotgun shoots and kills Cop 1 that came to investigate a suspicious person then proceeds to replace his shotgun with an AR-15
Civilian in the area shoots and kills the Gunman then picks up his rifle.
Cop 2 arrives and shoots Civilian that was holding Gunman's rifle.

Did he not see Eraser? Don't pick up the other dude's weapon, that's how you get shot with a railgun.

**6souls** · 2021-06-28 22:54

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57647703
https://heavy.com/news/nathan-allen/

White man kills a black man and a black woman, later dies in a shoutout with police.

Nathan Allen, 28, fatally shot retired policeman Dave Green and military veteran Ramona Cooper in Saturday afternoon's attack in Massachusetts.

Investigators later found racist and anti-Semitic writings by Allen, who was shot dead by officers at the scene.

He was married, employed and had a PhD and no criminal history, police said.

According to CBS affiliate WBZ-TV, Allen walked through a marsh to a garage in the city of Winthrop where he stole a plumber's lorry. He crashed the vehicle into an unoccupied home, causing extensive damage.

He then climbed out of the wreckage and attempted unsuccessfully to carjack another vehicle.

As he walked away, he shot Ramona Cooper, 60, a staff sergeant in the Air Force, three times in the back, killing her.

He then shot retired Massachusetts state trooper Dave Green, 68, multiple times. When police arrived on the scene they exchanged gunfire with Allen, killing him.

Investigators said they found "troubling white supremacist rhetoric" in the gunman's handwriting.

The prosecutor said he had "likely appeared unassuming" before unleashing his attack with a firearm that he legally owned.

Her office's statement said: "This individual wrote about the superiority of the white race. About whites being 'apex predators'. He drew swastikas."

https://www.boston25news.com/news/wi...JFWHG3MYQ4LCY/

He attended UMASS Dartmouth with the Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

**Day** · 2021-06-29 12:35

imagine if he was black

**Jaybar** · 2021-06-29 14:04

Originally Posted by Day

imagine if he was black

Black on black crime is a damn shame.

**Lucavi** · 2021-06-29 19:20

Apex predator indeed.

**archibaldcrane** · 2021-07-03 11:07

Lol

The standoff began around 2am when police noticed two cars pulled over on I-95 with hazard lights on after they had apparently run out of fuel, authorities said at a press briefing.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...mpression=true

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**Cail** · 2021-07-11 12:19

Four people arrested on illegal weapons possession charges at hotel near Coors Field

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...game-in-denver

Four people were arrested on illegal weapons possession charges at a Denver hotel just two blocks from Coors Field as All-Star Game festivities began this weekend.

The police department has not announced details about the evidence, but local ABC affiliate Denver7, citing multiple law enforcement sources, reported Saturday that police discovered 16 long guns, body armor and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition from an eighth-floor hotel room that had a balcony overlooking Denver's downtown area.

One of the suspects arrested Friday night had posted a message on Facebook referencing a recent divorce and saying he was going to “go out in a big way,” according to the multiple law enforcement sources.

**Roranora** · 2021-07-11 19:25

gj cops, yall still some bastards though

**Koyangi** · 2021-07-12 03:03

Originally Posted by Roranora

gj cops, yall still some bastards though ACAB

**archibaldcrane** · 2021-07-12 08:40

Shout out to the hotel maid who tipped off the cops.

**Salodin** · 2021-07-12 09:03

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Shout out to the hotel maid who tipped off the cops.

For real. How many other tragedies could have been prevented if some observer just had the courage to speak up? Glad they nipped this one in the bud

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