{COVID-19} Ivermectin Adult Chewables VII

[kuronosan]

I agree

It's relative, so it's really not impressive.

[archibaldcrane]

I agree

Spoiler: show

but maybe the anti-anxiety effects of Luvox means fewer COVID-19 patients panicked and went to the ER which drove the large effect and the Luvox didn't actually make their symptoms any different

[kuronosan]

Luvox takes like 14 days to reach any anxiolytic steady state so not likely.

Also, more math: the relative risk reduction between placebo and not is also like 2%.

[archibaldcrane]

Lol, lmao

[vagus]

https://twitter.com/TizzyEnt/status/...377924618?s=20

Somebody is getting jailed.


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[NynJa]

What if I told you that older people, those less healthy and thus more susceptible to the virus, tend to lean republican?

[Lucavi]

What if I told you that they aren't dying fast enough?

[Jaybar]

I thought I was an misanthrope, Jesus man.

[archibaldcrane]

What if I told you that older people, those less healthy and thus more susceptible to the virus, tend to lean republican?

Trump only beat Biden among 65+ by 4% - closer to even than any other age group.

[Tyche]

What if I told you that older people, those less healthy and thus more susceptible to the virus, tend to lean republican?

What if I told you that older people, those less healthy and more susceptible to the virus, are not who we are seeing in the hospital. Most of the old ass people understand they like their life more than they like Tucker Carlson. However...the 40 and 50 year olds....well, they think they'd survive anyway.

[Tyche]

Like 85% of old ass people have been vaccinated. I define old as being able to collect social security. Those ages-ish.

Also, the luvox stuff was not something I expected to learn rolling into BG this evening.

[Tyche]

This data is from our hospital group, pulled since April. 1/3 of our patients are under age 50. Have 2 in CCU under age 25.

[Byrthnoth]

Despite the marketing, SSRIs are notoriously messy drugs. ( https://www.psychiatrist.com/wp-cont...inhibitors.pdf )

Limiting ourselves to the first page of "channel response properties fluvoxamine" results on google scholar:
* potassium channels: https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article...b15-00207/_pdf
* calcium and sodium channels plus more potassium channels: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25560394/
* chloride channels: https://link.springer.com/article/10...210-002-0567-5
* sigma-1 receptors: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...06322307003216

Prefaced with the qualification that most of medicine is not scientific and works anyway so we do not need a mechanism, the mechanisms scientists write for drugs this messy are exercises in creative writing. You can believe the story if you want, but it is a story and ultimately its veracity doesn't affect the outcome.

[Byrthnoth]

Re: Tyche

Culling low sample sizes, I see three potentially meaningful comparisons:
p( Critical Care | Admitted ) = 17% for the fully vaccinated vs. 30% for the unvaccinated
p( Intubated | Admitted ) = 11% for the fully vaccinated vs. 14% for the unvaccinated
p( Death | Admitted ) = 6% for the fully vaccinated vs. 15% for the unvaccinated

Spoiler: show

I know we're all stats experts with PhDs in epidemiology in this thread, but p( Foo | Blah ) is read as "the probability of Foo given Blah" aka the conditional probability.

e.g. p( Death | Admitted ) is 6% for the fully vaccinated because 3 vaccinated deaths divided by 53 vaccinated admitted is 6%

So people admitted to the hospital seem less likely to visit critical care or die if they are fully vaccinated, which confirms my biases so no need to do statistics on it.

[Vaspinne]

Have you guys heard about bleach? Apparently it kills Covid, maybe we can somehow get bleach to like, wash out our lungs, maybe that'll work?

[Uzor]

Have you guys heard about bleach? Apparently it kills Covid, maybe we can somehow get bleach to like, wash out our lungs, maybe that'll work?

Some people took Trump's lesson to heart and are now apparently trying to vape/inhale bleach, hydrogen peroxide and various other products. Because, you know, that's better than just vaccinating, social distancing or wearing masks.

[kuronosan]

Just stand on milk crates.

[Cail]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...242_story.html

A divided Supreme Court has ended a national moratorium on evictions in parts of the country ravaged by the coronavirus pandemic, removing protections for millions of Americans who have not been able to make rent payments.


A coalition of landlords and real estate trade groups in Alabama and Georgia challenged the latest extension of a moratorium imposed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, issued Aug. 3 and intended to run through Oct. 3.


In an unsigned opinion released Thursday night, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority agreed that the federal agency did not have the power to order such a ban.


“It is indisputable that the public has a strong interest in combating the spread of the COVID-19 Delta variant,” the majority’s eight-page opinion said. “But our system does not permit agencies to act unlawfully even in pursuit of desirable ends. . . . It is up to Congress, not the CDC, to decide whether the public interest merits further action here.”

[Yabby]

Meh, I agree.

[Milkster]

https://www.wctv.tv/2021/08/25/capit...t-out-letters/

Man is losing his career over $50 mask opt out letters. Lol