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    The Russians launched a missile attack against the port of Odessa destroying key infrastructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    The Russians launched a missile attack against the port of Odessa destroying key infrastructure.
    After denying the attack all of yesterday, Russia today admits to the strike, but says they were targeting western delivered munitions.

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    Good short thread about HIMARS effectiveness and why the US has provided the limited number they have.

    https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/sta...pA6pJm5fg&s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Good short thread about HIMARS effectiveness and why the US has provided the limited number they have.

    https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/sta...pA6pJm5fg&s=19
    That was really interesting

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    What would be interesting is if the south can be reclaimed enough to threaten the port at Sevastopol with HIMARS. It creates tough strategic choices.

    Frankly Ukraine would be burdened at this juncture to take back Crimea in the event of a withdrawal, but Putin would likely be unable to accept this blow to image and policy. Crimea is a liability for Russia too at this moment until they extract the gas off the coasts there.

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    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...-2024-87416951

    Russia is leaving the International Space Station in 2024 to focus on building their own.

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    with blackjack... and hookers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...-2024-87416951

    Russia is leaving the International Space Station in 2024 to focus on building their own.
    Well that's good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Well that's good news.
    For the future? Possibly. For the immediate future? It's fucking awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forte View Post
    For the future? Possibly. For the immediate future? It's fucking awful.
    Is there an immediate need for their personnel on the ISS? I'm not versed in why their personnel are a big deal to the lives of the average person.

    Even if the goal was to colonize Mars or some shit. Would it matter if Kosmonauts were up there tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forte View Post
    For the future? Possibly. For the immediate future? It's fucking awful.
    Why?

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    If I remember right Russia was the second most represented country of the countries that have long-term ISS crew, by a lot.

    It means that the states will have to burden the load of keeping it properly manned

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    Can't keep people in orbit for too long, meaning more swaps among member nations. And since Russia was the primary carrier for astronaut transit, it's not clear if they will continue to launch non-Russian's to the ISS. The only other viable carrier now is SpaceX (not terrible).

    Edit: Seems like SpaceX is the primary launcher for crewed missions now anyway.

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    Almost like they would have the same problem too compared to a larger world to pool from.

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    No kidding, it's all posturing, settling back into Cold War opposition and insulating their scientific community/advancements. It'll just further divide their country with the rest of the world's leading scientific work.

    The only viable option I see is they team up with China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Is there an immediate need for their personnel on the ISS? I'm not versed in why their personnel are a big deal to the lives of the average person.

    Even if the goal was to colonize Mars or some shit. Would it matter if Kosmonauts were up there tomorrow?
    I don't give a shit about Kosmonauts. I give a shit about them ripping off the parts of the ISS they own.

    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Why?
    Because I like the ISS, and it does really important science that will help us get to Mars faster. Now is not the time for them to be going "We're taking our toys and going home."

    Staffing aside, it's the parts that they would want to be removed that's the problem. They control all the parts that keep the thing in orbit. We don't have the ability to immediately replace those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forte View Post
    I don't give a shit about Kosmonauts. I give a shit about them ripping off the parts of the ISS they own.



    Because I like the ISS, and it does really important science that will help us get to Mars faster. Now is not the time for them to be going "We're taking our toys and going home."

    Staffing aside, it's the parts that they would want to be removed that's the problem. They control all the parts that keep the thing in orbit. We don't have the ability to immediately replace those.
    Okay, well, it is their choice.

    As far as getting to Mars. That is really one of the absolute last priorities this planet should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Okay, well, it is their choice.

    As far as getting to Mars. That is really one of the absolute last priorities this planet should have.
    I don't disagree, but in terms of "being able to go anywhere off world", having the ISS and the experiments that can be preformed on the ISS, such as growing food and studying radiation effects and all that shit, is vital. Want to build an orbiting moon base? ISS helps tremendously with that. Want to go to Europa? ISS helps tremendously with that. Want to learn nearly anything about how shit works in space without having to send up an entire huge module? ISS helps with that.

    I'm not saying the ISS is perfect, or even completely cost effective, but there's been a LOT of time, money, and energy put into that thing and having some chucklefuck dictator decide "I am angy so no more space station" fucks over a TREMENDOUS amount of people, including people in the fucking Russia space program.

    Scientists don't fucking care about your retarded land wars. They care about furthering our fucking species so we don't die if and when this one gets fucked.

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