I was hearing some stories of how terrible of a drop rate that Vivian Ring is (1/50 according to a jp ls in gilgamesh) and I was wondering if anyone could share some stories or experiences or anything. I just started hunting her lately and am currently 0/5 on drop. Got a black ribbon once but thats about it ;; Oh and can anyone confirm pop window? I kinda just start killing placeholders after 24 hours and he always seems to pop soon after^^;