Well, I have a 48 monk if anyone has any leftover statics they would want a MNK for :D.
Well, I have a 48 monk if anyone has any leftover statics they would want a MNK for :D.
sorry, the idea of still doing giltoss for less effect than before while other melees are now comparable doesn't strike me as much fun.Originally Posted by Ashen
You could always sub warrior and once again shame the damage that other melees do.Originally Posted by Xavier
That's not true Also I agree with Xavier, if I'm gonna be doing giltoss it better be the best.Originally Posted by Sekkite
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rukenshin/11067.htmlOriginally Posted by Fira
Ya and? ;3 chelvenik is soft
Can other DDs consistently do that kind of damage on it?
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w/ O-bow, no CP bolts (Darksteel i guess), after patch, and /NIN. (not me either XD)
Rng is not really as bad as its made out to be Granted its nowhere near where it used to be, and WAR still matches or overcomes its XP pt dmgs gaurenteed with the right gear, RNG is still a very viable job, especially for NMs where Ranged, or piercing help.
Drk's in my ls say 150-220ish with scythe, 800-1200 average ws. Thats with war sub using guillotine.
thats a vt xp mob ;xOriginally Posted by geno
i get 1700+ capping at 1800something slugshot on chevelnik hes a pussy.
yeah, thats the point. its not like the job is gimped so horribly bad in xp pt. Its not like they were ever any good at tiamat/jorm/vrtra. at the jeuno NMs - honestly who cares lol, jobs really dont make a difference. KB-RNG still good, ASPI-blmshow, NID-blmshow (rngs can still do good dmg, but its always been a blm show) Unless you are a tank or mage job alternate (such as Xavier w/ PLD) theres no reason you should have to not even count it as one of your jobs. Its as equally viable for those above things as most other melee.
note: i dont really support the whole RNG only takes skill now thing too. It was a damn nerf. 2 of the RNGs in my LS play their WHM, 1 plays BLM or RDM, 1 plays thief (TH onry), 1 plays MNK, 1 plays WAR, and 1 plays PLD. They all have their alt jobs and are now almost always on them. But if one decides to do RNG for something, its never really that much worse, and in XP its often better (RNG > WHM,PLD,THF,BLM for weapons pts) its still useful for some of them.
A Redmage can get a completely unresisted nuke on Chelvenik, that shows how easy he is to damage. KS99s aren't really representative of their counterparts, let alone the stronger HNMs.
edit: ks99 instead of ks30
lolOriginally Posted by DrObvious
you make it sound like its impossible for a standard rdm to land nukes on HNM's...
Show me a "standard" rdm nuking KB for a full damage Blizzard III at the rate they can do it on Chev in ks99, please. Remember, you said standard, so they can't be pimped out with every +elemental skill gear available.
In my eyes, a 'standard' RDM has at least Torque and their AF1 hat, giving them a measly +17 along with Aquilo's/Ice Staff for +27. This puts them at a measly 257 Skill, but sadly that's still enough to land a spell on KB every once in a while, and probably ~80% chance on an MB.Originally Posted by DrObvious
But the fact that Chev is a damn wimp with no magic defense still remains. It seems really messed up, I don't know if they made it like LV70 with high DEF and high ATK, and Meteor, or if they made it Lv88-90 with low MDEF. Bleh, who knows.
Fairlady was upgrading the greatsword until he basicly quit a year ago and I think Iverson is/was upgrading the Katana(nin).Originally Posted by Rawk
Who else on midgard is upgrading that you know of disc, and what stage are they all at? and what else they need to get to stage5? You seem to know a good deal about it.Originally Posted by Discordian
Based on what some other people said in this thread, Chev doesn't exactly have super high defense. Basically what I was getting it as that it looks like any job can do damage there.Originally Posted by Genosync
What kind of damage do you do there when your LS leaves a bard at your disposal and if you have/had the kind of equipment that ranger has?Originally Posted by Sekkite
I wouldn't know.Originally Posted by DrObvious