What is defeniation of holding HNM.

[Edwardtheblack]

whatever to keep claim until backup arrives

this is what i thought, but one of them said that how can you prove the first force couldn't kill the mob, you cann't see if they can kill or not till the end of fight.so they claimed that we have hold every HNM by my definination, because noone proove you can win HNM w/o backups. but..
in my opinion, you can see it..how can you say it's not holding that nin turned back, and only cast utsusemi. and start fight when backup arrives.
but by their definination, they have not hold HNM, yeah because you can't "prove" that tank pt would lose. this is what i was told.

[Zaris]

Holding and 'grief tactics' are the same thing. But the new time limit for HNMs kind of killed its very existance. You do what you want for 15 minutes...30 minutes...60 minutes to the NM. After that you either fork it over or are forced to force it over.

I don't see anything wrong with the fafnir you pulled today. Just people rattling cages.

[Xavier]

From what you have said, FI is a greedy, low skill LS who is trying to get a free Fafnir from you. So, basically yeah, it's horseshit.

Not low skill, but character.

[Inzmail Hyron]

Sounds to me like they are simply making their own definition of "holding" to fit their needs Ed. Just tell them next time that If its killed within 60 minutes its a legit kill and legit pull.

[Genosync]

Time and time again, FI always proved to be a bunch of assholes that think they're above the rules.

Ignore them and move on.

[Toreador]

60 min time limit is there for a reason, if a group wants to hold with 6ppl to try and get backup, more power to em!

[Ish]

From what you have said, FI is a greedy, low skill LS who is trying to get a free Fafnir from you. So, basically yeah, it's horseshit.

Not low skill, but character.

Well, I should not have commented on their skill, since I'm not on Bahamut. Mea culpa, but usually high skill LS do not complain about losing pull, because they have skill to do it and the spirit to camp every day even if they lose pull.

So yes, as you said, character.

Ish-

[kasber]

Who cares what they think, you guys say that you dont care what other ls' think of you, whats so different about this situation. You won claim, you killed Faffy and theres nothing they can do about it. Now get on and claim it again.

[NynJa]

SSJ timers were made so GM's dont have to deal with help calls pretaining to griefing tactics.

Just call FI a bunch of filthy mexicans and claim the next one.



If you're feeling daring, keep fafnir facing where their members are and hope they eat a dragon breath lol.

[Akiro]

SSJ timers were made so GM's dont have to deal with help calls pretaining to griefing tactics.

Just call FI a bunch of filthy mexicans and claim the next one.



If you're feeling daring, keep fafnir facing where their members are and hope they eat a dragon breath lol.

hey

[Edwardtheblack]

Yeah, there is 60min limit, now that holding HNM means choking yourself.
this is no worth arguing.but they try to yell at us
EVEN WHEN THEY WIN PULL
so i think they still hold grudge against old story.
the story is that we objected about holding to them on our top page and in game when there was no time limit.
According to them one of us sweared to them in game. hm..who?
and they also think that they are 100% right, so that they can say like
"we have been damage a lot of times,not only in this case"
god..


Do you forget what you have done to us? or is my brain just a sponge? so all my memory is gone?

[NynJa]

SSJ timers were made so GM's dont have to deal with help calls pretaining to griefing tactics.

Just call FI a bunch of filthy mexicans and claim the next one.



If you're feeling daring, keep fafnir facing where their members are and hope they eat a dragon breath lol.

hey

Do you consider yourself filthy ??
if not, you have no reason to take offence.


Its like the whole "black people vs niggaz" analogy.

[Inzmail Hyron]

hmm i dont recall seeing ed this upset in awhile, seems like FI pushed some buttons they shouldnt have.

[NynJa]

According to them one of us sweared to them in game. hm..who?

They've got a cock up their ass because someone swore at them ??

Jeez, tell them to spend 2 hours in North America.

[Not Kuno]

hmm i dont recall seeing ed this upset in awhile, seems like FI pushed some buttons they shouldnt have.

The one that fires homing missles at nearby the enemies base?

[Inzmail Hyron]

[quote=Not Kuno]

hmm i dont recall seeing ed this upset in awhile, seems like FI pushed some buttons they shouldnt have.

The one that fires homing missles at nearby the enemies base?[/quote:4cdf1]

Yes, I do believe that would be correct, and I think they hit a bulls-eye.

[Lasitha]

SSJ timers were made so GM's dont have to deal with help calls pretaining to griefing tactics.

Just call FI a bunch of filthy mexicans and claim the next one.



If you're feeling daring, keep fafnir facing where their members are and hope they eat a dragon breath lol.

Hey! Give us some respect. Not all of us are wetbacks you can step on.

[Akiro]

i like that idea

[Edwardtheblack]

omg, 5 minutes, no worries

Their definination of holding is mob is in sleep and can't act.

[NynJa]

SSJ timers were made so GM's dont have to deal with help calls pretaining to griefing tactics.

Just call FI a bunch of filthy mexicans and claim the next one.



If you're feeling daring, keep fafnir facing where their members are and hope they eat a dragon breath lol.

Hey! Give us some respect. Not all of us are wetbacks you can step on.

If you wanna take a potshot at someone who is quebecois/irish/yugoslav...I wont hold it against you