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  1. #101
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    I don't think anyone is saying that they can't still do dmg, my point is that the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. A black mage is far better than a ranger now, theres no denying it.

    The reason a ranger was so pwnpwn before was because of rng/nin, they did insane dmg from point blank & a distance equally, and when they drew hate, they just ended up tanking until the actual tank got hate back. RNG/WAR loses that ability in order to hit the old dmg, so its just not as effective as before. It still works, but theres other more viable options.

  2. #102

    RNG/WAR loses that ability in order to hit the old dmg, so its just not as effective as before. It still works, but why not just play WAR?
    Fix'ed. :D

  3. #103

    when i first picked the ranger job i was being told that they weren't wanted in parties (nobody in beta had slugshot lol) and that they missed too much (lol) and that they were too expensive and it wasn't worth it.

    I didn't care. I had always loved playing an archer type class. Honestly I didn't even realize how good the ranger job was until I was nearing 55 and started hearing things about slugshot. RNG hit 75 a year ago(took some breaks along the way to take thief to 61 and warrior to 63 >_>) and then I just continued on with my warrior, taking it to 75. Then a while later the ranger nerf hits. I didn't really mind the damage reduction, as it let me actually sub warrior again, but the sweet spot range was hella gay, and just got old too fast(considering all i fight are mobs where it is impossible to stay in the sweet spot). making something overly complicated when all you had to do was adjust the damage formulas is retarded.

    I used to love playing ranger, but now its a pain in the ass, and I'd rather play warrior instead.

    p.s. before anyone brings up the stupid ass ranger argument, i'd liek to point out that in FF5 the job was Hunter, and the japanese word for the ranger job translates into hunter. :\

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    In FFXI too it translates to Hunter.

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    sorry not sure i made that clear enough (3:30am lolkirin), that's what i meant.

    edit: lol im dead on the floor cause i pulled hate on mini-suzaku

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    The reason a ranger was so pwnpwn before was because of rng/nin, they did insane dmg from point blank & a distance equally, and when they drew hate, they just ended up tanking until the actual tank got hate back. RNG/WAR loses that ability in order to hit the old dmg, so its just not as effective as before. It still works, but theres other more viable options.
    But don't you see how that is slightly unbalanced? If a BLM goes balls out and takes hate, he/she will die because BLMs and RNGs are supposed to be glass cannons. Before the ranged nerf Rangers were neigh-invincible damage gods- they can still put out huge damage, but if they get hate they will be shredded. (Just like BLMs...)

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    i wonder how much less damage BLM/NIN does compared to BLM/RDM on Kirin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    i wonder how much less damage BLM/NIN does compared to BLM/RDM on Kirin.
    Only 2 less int. But Kirin does some WS that go through shadows. ;x

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    and I believe those WS are elemental-based, so blm would take minimal damage.

    P.S. I haven't watched blms when they have hate from Kirin recently, so I'm not sure this is true. Just could be since they seem to have WS Immunity on Aura Statues.

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    Maybe they had stoneskin up? BLM dont have any resistance trait of any sort at all (just mag attack bonus, conserve mp and clear mind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by amlaruil
    JJust could be since they seem to have WS Immunity on Aura Statues.
    Are you sure you weren't seeing BLM/WHM?

  12. #112

    I like both of my 'gimp' jobs ty very much. >.>


    I dunno which is better, lol. -.- I used to be a pro-rng even after the nerf but I got slowly turned off by how you're not able to do anything at higher HNM anymore. ffs, my LS asked me to go on drg for the most part (while I was still leveling samurai) to HNM loool. <.<

  13. #113

    Fair enough, Magic Defense Bonus comes from RDM and WHM subs.

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    that's nice, what's the equip setup?

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    Hawkers +1
    Selene's
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    AF1 Hat (most underrated rng AF)
    Peacock Charm
    Suppanomimi
    Cassie Earring
    Kirins Osode
    Seiryu Kote
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    Scouts Braccae (Hunters for Sharpshot)
    Strider Boots

    Minuet x 2
    Red Curry (Couerl Subs Dmg is only very slightly lower)

    We consistantly kill Kirin in 20-25 minutes (after summons are dead) with main force being 4 rangers and 2 bards party.

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    you should just all quit your jobs and change to blm

    problem fixed

    we can all be the same, hold hands and fondle eachother genatalia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rahvin
    you should just all quit your jobs and change to blm

    problem fixed

    we can all be the same, hold hands and fondle eachother genatalia.
    Galka only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    i dont know about pre-patch RNG shot for shot on Kirin, but with BRD doing 100~ with is decent DoT, but it suffers when your Slug doesnt break 800 no matter what you do ; ; (/war serk ect) Its silly when u see Pics of Pre-Nerf doing 1600slug 1400 barrage 1500slug 1300 EES all in a row (Kkb ftw) and now its just shit.
    Huzzah!

  20. #120

    Quote Originally Posted by Kkb
    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    i dont know about pre-patch RNG shot for shot on Kirin, but with BRD doing 100~ with is decent DoT, but it suffers when your Slug doesnt break 800 no matter what you do ; ; (/war serk ect) Its silly when u see Pics of Pre-Nerf doing 1600slug 1400 barrage 1500slug 1300 EES all in a row (Kkb ftw) and now its just shit.
    Huzzah!
    It was my superior 2h minuets that pushed you there dragoon.

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