Great Axe Warrior Question

[Judah]

Steel Cyclone -

Fortitude Torque
VIT+5 Sword Skill+7 Great Axe Skill+7

or

Whatever Elemental gorget Steel Cyclone is

??? :D

[Lockecole]

Gorget 4TW, Torque on anything but WS.

[Xavier]

Gorget 4TW, Torque on anything but WS.

Do you have a parser to back that up? I thought the Gorgets were more effective for multi-hit weaponskills and the torques for single-hit.

[aurik]

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=p ... 28#1541328

[Raineer]

Gorget 4TW, Torque on anything but WS.

Do you have a parser to back that up? I thought the Gorgets were more effective for multi-hit weaponskills and the torques for single-hit.

He has every gorget and is the biggest WS nerd in the game. I trust.

[XxSlusherxx]

I did this to test if in fact the Breeze Gorget does work with Steel Cyclone, I'm not testing how it affects damage.. I said that like three times. I even said the exact same thing you did, that it's basically not an accurate way to test the damage increase on level 1 mobs.... I'm only testing if it works.

WHen sekkite tested the correct gorget for spinning slash (on mobsthat were not tww) he found he liked spike necklace better. So VIT+5 attk+7(essentially) I would guess the fortatude torque would be superior.

[Lockecole]

WHen sekkite tested the correct gorget for spinning slash (on mobsthat were not tww) he found he liked spike necklace better. So VIT+5 attk+7(essentially) I would guess the fortatude torque would be superior.

3STR > then a Gorget specifically tiered to WSes? Umm I find that hard to believe. 3 STR is just that. 3STR. I dont know why people hang on it so much. If anything the 10% accuracy would be better for the possibility of connecting the double attack on a SAed WS...and even more so if you were only TAing a WS. or using /NIN.

I'm sorry but for some reason people thinking a generic DD lvl21 item is better then a Lv.73 WS specific item, tends to make me wonder...yes even if the item comes from Sea. My Rampages have been rediculous since I got my gorget, as have my Dancing Edges (2000+ on XP mobs...and Ive never come close before that.) Even if a gorget did 1/5th what it did for those, Id still be impressed.

[Raineer]

Dancing Edges (2000+ on XP mobs...and Ive never come close before that.)

PLD/THF/THF xp has been reborn at 75 because of said gorget. I've never seen a PLD get 8k/hr in such a lazy setup in my life.

[Lockecole]

PLD/THF/THF xp has been reborn at 75 because of said gorget.

PLD/NIN ONRY! :D

[Raineer]

PLD/THF/THF xp has been reborn at 75 because of said gorget.

PLD/NIN ONRY! :D

lol... we still got 8k with /WAR, doesn't really matter since you can't drop the WHM from the party in Lufaise, regen3 once per mob is plenty. I can't imagine any better support than BRD/RDM/WHM anyways, not gonna kill any faster by changing any of those 3.

[Lockecole]

lol... we still got 8k with /WAR, doesn't really matter since you can't drop the WHM from the party in Lufaise, regen3 once per mob is plenty. I can't imagine any better support than BRD/RDM/WHM anyways, not gonna kill any faster by changing any of those 3.

Surprisingly enough we did it without a WHM...just kinda ate the stonas, if PLD got Petrified THFs would pull hate and tank till it ended, 2 BRDs, and a RDM turned 2 THFs into practically 4 THFs...it was caraaaazzzyyy. Though Kittylicious did come in at the end to help out. (Go go lesbians!)

[Xavier]

My Rampages have been rediculous since I got my gorget, as have my Dancing Edges (2000+ on XP mobs...and Ive never come close before that.) Even if a gorget did 1/5th what it did for those, Id still be impressed.

Those are both multi-hit weaponskills, which I didn't doubt the gorgets helped, seeing as how I've used the gorget for rampage, but that wasn't my question.

My point was just that I've never seen that big of a difference between boroka torque or a gorget for single hit weaponskills.

[Russta]

Personally I have noticed a big difference in Jin, Asura and Rampage since getting my gorgets. I don't have pages of parser numbers to back that up and I assure you I'm not just looking to justify killing Yovra after Yovra as I four man them in 15-20 minutes with ease. I haven't used a gorget with a single hit weapon skill either but I'll admit I'd have to question if they are quite as useful for them as they are with multihits. What I won't question though is if a generic piece of 10k level 21 equipment (as Lockecole so elegantly put it) is better than a level 73 piece specifically meant for specific weapon skills that takes hours to get. I left the verdict on the worthwhileness of gorgets out for a long, long time when I first started getting them but now I'm a firm believer. The incredible annoyance of killing Yovra's disappears when your weapon skills become so consistently great. Mess around with them for a bit and drop the misconception that they're going to add an extra zero onto the end of every weapon skill and you might be surprised.

[Raineer]

Mess around with them for a bit and drop the misconception that they're going to add an extra zero onto the end of every weapon skill and you might be surprised.

Perfect way to word it.

[NynJa]

rukenshin also tested on LV1 mobs...

[aurik]

Better than no testing at all, which is the rest of what's being thrown around in this thread <_<


PS. Russta, you can probably trio Yovras pretty easily.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8656/dontsolo8lb.jpg
Mnk/nin, Rdm/whm, Whm/thf (lol)

[divisortheory]

I'm sorry but for some reason people thinking a generic DD lvl21 item is better then a Lv.73 WS specific item, tends to make me wonder...yes even if the item comes from Sea. My Rampages have been rediculous since I got my gorget, as have my Dancing Edges (2000+ on XP mobs...and Ive never come close before that.) Even if a gorget did 1/5th what it did for those, Id still be impressed.

Which gorget are you using for DE?

[aurik]

Soil for DE and Rampage.
Breeze also works for DE.

[divisortheory]

Assuming you're using DE, would Soil and Breeze be equivalent in terms of the boost they provide, or is that untested?

[aurik]

Untested as far as I know. I'd assume they'd be the same, though.
You could always grab 2 different gorgets for Steel Cyclone; the tests above show that the damage under those conditions is pretty reliable.