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    Sea Tier 2 Drop Rates & Prudence Glitch

    Hello my linkshell on Odin server is wondering what luck other people have had concerning virtue drops on the tier 2 jailers in Sea. We are currently:

    1/7 on Hope
    4/6 on Prudence
    3/6 on Justice

    Wondering what other linkshell's luck has been with regards to virtue drop on these guys. We've had fairly bad luck on Hope compared to the other two.

    Also, while fighting Prudence while there's still two of him we've had him glitch a few times and one of him had the name removed so it was impossible to target it. This has happened once when they did the duo Weapon Skill where they come together and once upon popping him which made things very interesting to say the least. Has anyone else encountered this glitch and heard anything more from the GMs other than we can't assist you?

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    search function.

    also, i want my click back.

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    What Mifaco said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    search function.

    also, i want my click back.

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    Let me go ahead and save all the trolls the effort of replying:
    Sea drops suck.
    Fuck SE, SE sucks.
    Go to allakhazam.
    Use the search button at the top of this page, as you'll find everything you mentioned in a LOT of other topics.

    I think that covers it. Not to be an ass (well, yes, to be an ass), but this shit has been rehashed out about a dozen times in the short time that even I've been reading these forums.

    edit: damn, beaten by other trolls

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    Re: Sea Tier 2 Drop Rates & Prudence Glitch

    Quote Originally Posted by Auronku
    Hello my linkshell on Odin server is wondering what luck other people have had concerning virtue drops on the tier 2 jailers in Sea. We are currently:

    1/7 on Hope
    4/6 on Prudence
    3/6 on Justice

    Wondering what other linkshell's luck has been with regards to virtue drop on these guys. We've had fairly bad luck on Hope compared to the other two.

    Also, while fighting Prudence while there's still two of him we've had him glitch a few times and one of him had the name removed so it was impossible to target it. This has happened once when they did the duo Weapon Skill where they come together and once upon popping him which made things very interesting to say the least. Has anyone else encountered this glitch and heard anything more from the GMs other than we can't assist you?
    There's a couple of posts about the glitch on the forums sweetheart, heres a couple.

    http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... nce+glitch
    http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... nce+glitch

    As for most of the Virtue drops, they seem to be about 40-50%, you seem to just be having bad luck with Hope there, I really hate how much work goes into CoP Jailers and rewards arent guarunteed.

    Next time use the search function though, some people around here are viscious.

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    Glitch is common, no way to fix it really.


    About drop rate, there isn't much to say beside it being crappy. We had to kill Fortitude 9 time before getting a virtue and Drk Ix 5 times, but other like Faith dropped 50% of the time. I think we are 3/3 on Hope too.

    I tried to figure a pattern for drop rate in sea using ghrah M chip, but never figured anything. I quit the game before having enough entry to draw a conclusion (40 grhah chips / 300 kills or something).
    I was keeping track of the time of the day (night/day) and element killed vs element of the day.

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    I dont think most LS's are even bothering with a "final push" before the expansion. Most LS's are giving up and just waiting for ToaU. But they have reason to, i mean, even SE gave up on it themselves You know the expansion is toiletworthy when the devs give up.

    On topic, Ix'DRK we got 2 Deeds out of 3 kills, Ix'MNK 0/7 on deed, 1/7 on cape. Umm what else, JoFortitude, 1/5 on Deed, Temperance 1/3 ? I think, it's just sad, SE can make them 100% quite easily , but refuse to.

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    virtues/kills from SeaShell on Titan:
    3/12 hope
    1/7 justice
    0/5 prudence ; ;

    [GM]Thunderan told us that he submitted bug reports to the devs about Prudence and advised us to do the same, but that he obviously can't personally fix any problems we find with any NMs.

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    My LS has a pretty good history with virtue drops, although deeds are pretty gay...we only raid sea once per week and we only get like 15 to show up normally.

    1/1 Temperance
    2/3 Fortitude
    3/3 Faith (maybe 2/3)
    1/1 Hope
    1/1 Justice
    0/1 Prudence.....still waiting for round 2 after we got raped the 1st time popping it, got virtue from Faith but need the deed from Ix'DRG.

    1/4 Ix'MNK (3x popping with 1 organ, 1 time popping with 2...nothing dropped on that, which is bullshit)
    1/3 Ix'DRK (1 cape)
    1/1 Ix'DRG (got lucky, didnt Reraise lol)

    Just wish SE would make drop rates on pop items 100%, hell AV is like a 10% chance to pop....IF that at all, i dont see anything besides a subtle "fuck you" to the endgame community with SE making sea NMs this absurd.

    Prudence is still glitched, AV is still impossible, drop rates are shitty for alot of people, hell the only things that make sea worth raiding drop off an NM that no one knows the trick to killing yet, not to mention getting AV to pop is like trying to get Ridill to drop. I hope SE makes more gear that benefits melees soon, most of the sea shit is basically mage-oriented except for AV drops. =/

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    Yeah things like Torques with stats like Sword+7, STR+5, etc are sooo for mages.


    Oh wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isildur
    I hope SE makes more gear that benefits melees soon, most of the sea shit is basically mage-oriented except for AV drops. =/
    I believe they called it Ninurta's Sash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isildur
    I hope SE makes more gear that benefits melees soon, most of the sea shit is basically mage-oriented except for AV drops. =/
    You're joking. Dont make me list all the torques and weapons, because I will.

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    I don't have the full #s on everything we did in sea, but we started messing around in Sea again and the drop rates def. still suck.

    We went 0/3 on Torque/Virtue from Jailer of Faith 1 day, and then the next 1/1 on the Virtue from Faith and 0/1 on the Torque. Torques have a really homosexual drop rate.

    Sea is kinda fun when you do it in short bursts, head up, goof off for an hour or two, and leave. There aren't as many clearly defined benefits like there were to spending a lot of time in sky, so its hard to really be hardcore about it.

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    i was referring to drops from jailers...AV itself has some sweet melee drops but torques are pretty much the only other thing that makes sea worthwhile, mages get the capes, earrings, hope? torque...plus torques are indeed a shitty drop rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isildur
    i was referring to drops from jailers...AV itself has some sweet melee drops but torques are pretty much the only other thing that makes sea worthwhile, mages get the capes, earrings, hope? torque...plus torques are indeed a shitty drop rate
    Um that's exactly what I was talking about.

    Let's see here...

    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6966 - Temperance Axe, not a mage item
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7088 - Temperance Torque, bard maybe, but not a mage item.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6950 - Faith Bagnaghks - Yeah because mages wear these amirite?
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7087 - Faith Torque, not a mage item
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6970 - Fortitude Axe, because we know all those smn are slumpin' round these shiny axes
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7086 - Fortitude Torque - That +5 Vit will help you nuke hmm?
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6955 - Justice Sword, there we go, a RDM item, but we already have a joytoy.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7083 - Justice Torque , Maybe everyone please pass the Justice torque for my BLM? I need the 5 STR over everyone.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7085 - Prudence Torque - 5 int would be nice if the BLM would ever see this, too bad there's ugg pendants. However it has +7 Greatsword skill which benefits who? oh that's right..
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6986 - Prudence Rod, DING PURE MAGE ITEM
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6960 - Hope staff, DING PURE MAGE ITEM #2
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7084 - Hope torque, I really hope that agi will affect my ranged bard songs so I didnt piss off the SAM and RNG by overlotting them.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7089 - Love torque, because i'd love to see the faces of the thieves when my RDM gets this.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6968 - Love Halberd, because samurais are mages.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7020 - Novio earring, DING PURE MAGE ITEM #3
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7021 - Novia earring, mnk/nin, nin, thf, etc can benefit having this while soloing.

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    you're right about all that but eh...it would've been nice to make some useful capes for melees, faith/hope/justice/love/fort torques are pretty good for HNMs but temp torque i dont see any WARs using except in a burn pt, i still say the best melee shit is from AV....the weapons are good somewhat, GAXE is sweet for WAR on Steel Cyclone, H2H would be nice on MNK/DRK Hundred Fists, the sword...i dunno Ballista loot i guess.

    im just tired and a little pissed off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isildur
    you're right about all that but eh...it would've been nice to make some useful capes for melees, faith/hope/justice/love/fort torques are pretty good for HNMs but temp torque i dont see any WARs using except in a burn pt, i still say the best melee shit is from AV....the weapons are good somewhat, GAXE is sweet for WAR on Steel Cyclone, H2H would be nice on MNK/DRK Hundred Fists, the sword...i dunno Ballista loot i guess.

    im just tired and a little pissed off
    What stats on a cape will make melee not use an Amemit/Foragers/Boxers mantle?

    No matter what you're wishing.. it's already out there. Just because it doesnt drop in sea it doesnt mean "ignore it". And that temperance torque, I wasnt thinking of WAR in mind, I was thinking more of BST, who will have both his charm and acc gear on the same neckpeice instead of having to swap between the 2.

    GA i cant talk about , since I rarley see anyone use it. h2h is not good for mnk/drk, it's good for mnk, period. It's been parsed to compete with destroyers (since each hand has a chance to hit twice, giving you 4x hits, then put double attack in there and maybe hit 6x? ) That sword, is like a joyeuse with 7 STR. So if you're using a joyeuse, use this instead.

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    arent there some capes in the new dynamises? i saw one that loked like errant cape for pld

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    yea dynamis capes are pretty good, i wasnt thinking about that....some of the capes make no sense, like the BRD one...what fucking BRD is gonna need +7 eva?

    most melee capes/belts from dynamis compensate for that shit i guess

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