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  1. #1001
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    1000 posts on this thread

    Edit: There are less than 94k total posts in FFXI Talk, to put that in perspective.

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    Have you ever seen an Antica go up a wall which is unclimable? That shit didn't go around up the ramp and came at me... it went straight UP the wall.

  3. #1003

    demons in the castle do it too, if youre goin for blm af key stand on a ledge and voke or flash or somethin on it and itll teleport to you

  4. #1004
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    but that doesn't change the fact that while he was "locked" behind wall he still did dmg to them.
    Maybe you missed the part where from 100% to 55% AV didn't use any 2hrs, but I can't recall if he was using magic or not.

    Point being, he has actual, dmging physical attacks that were prevented by the wall. And its not the same thing as marathoning, because a marathoned mob has the ability to eventually catch up and use his physical attacks on you, not to mention change targets and go after whos casting on him.

    I think you just argue to argue.

  5. #1005
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    Some people may not understand that Sea has separate areas that you can enter from that are not connected to each other.[edit: It is one single zone, with one single map, but a few unconnected areas.]

    To get to the various areas, you teleport to a Crag, and go through the Dimensional Portal. So if you go via the Dem Crag, you cannot walk to the area accessible from the Holla Crag etc.

    I routinely have to port around and grab people who enter from the Sea Lions Den side to get them to the various Limbus entrances.

    So whatever your terminology may be, fighting behind a wall on the same area, so that AV could run to you is different from fighting AV from the other area where AV cannot run to you. OFC AOE = suck, but w/e...

    Mad Props to LB. I know if I saw AV stuck somewere, Id have done the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichthyos
    1000 posts on this thread

    Edit: There are less than 94k total posts in FFXI Talk, to put that in perspective.
    Kinda like AV's Max HP count, eh?

  7. #1007

    My god.... come back to website while I have some free time and theres a 1000+ post AV thread.... can anyone sum up wtf happened with all this i'd drop dead before I could make it to page 50.

  8. #1008
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    Quote Originally Posted by supaswimma
    demons in the castle do it too, if youre goin for blm af key stand on a ledge and voke or flash or somethin on it and itll teleport to you
    Quote Originally Posted by WizerdRemora
    Mobs only go through solid surfaces that can be opened in some way. In the manner, mobs can only go up or down hill on cliffs that players can drop off of. You can't open the wall that they stuck AV on to walk through it. ...Or can you? ;p
    You can fall off of those ledges, so if what WizerdRemora says is correct, that is why they can appear next to you. (Same thing with Lizards in parts of Pso'xja.)

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    If I had some spare time to mess around I'd test if any other mob can go thru that wall. /hint /hint

  10. #1010
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    If I had some spare time to mess around I'd test if any other mob can go thru that wall. /hint /hint
    blm duo VT sharks gogo

  11. #1011
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Maybe you missed the part where from 100% to 55% AV didn't use any 2hrs, but I can't recall if he was using magic or not.
    No, from 100%-61% it didnt do 2hrs until it hit the 60% mark thats when the first 2hr had started.

  12. #1012
    Official THE Alpha and Omega
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    You all are missing an important point... THEY ARE USING THE WINDOWER H4X!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    You all are missing an important point... THEY ARE USING THE WINDOWER H4X!!
    Im sure they all use PS2.

  14. #1014
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    For the hundreth freakin' time, most people here are not bashing LB or calling them cheaters for using an exploit. They are simply stating it's an exploit. If you go back and read the thread, most people calling the feat an exploit also congratulated LB on what they did and cheered them on.

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    lol@people getting hung up on a word. Move on?

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    loldrg nm

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    You all are missing an important point... THEY ARE USING THE WINDOWER H4X!!
    Im sure they all use PS2.
    I saw a TP number by their names... b& plz

  18. #1018
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    lol@people getting hung up on a word. Move on?
    We have. Now we're getting hung up on them cheating with the windower

  19. #1019
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    Deja vu...

  20. #1020
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality
    whoever has hate moves left to right on the telepad, and Faust jerks back and forth, unable to reach the stairs to the porter
    If I saw you fighting Faust like that, I would contact a GM and mention that you are fighting a monster in a fashion that you can hit it while it can not hit you, which is a glitch.



    Quote Originally Posted by rahvin
    Until there is an official statement from SE (and no Nynja's vague question to SE doesnt count, i have sent in a more detailed explaining the situation and how the terrain is being used to hopefully get a response on yes or no today if its an exploit or not) im going to go with the gm saying its not an expoit over some kid who posts on a forum. Sorry if you guys dont like that but GM>kid on forum.
    I'll trust the POL website (supreme court) over a fuckin rentacop GM anyday, thanks.



    Quote Originally Posted by Eromenos-Ifrit
    honestly, i think a 30 hour fight of a mob that has never been beaten would have been observed by the dev's and shit. And if it was an out in out exploit, you would have seen an emergency update on the zone.
    GM's dont communicate with the dev's. Do you honestly think the dev's care about what some gaijins are doing in sea ??





    Hell, a few members from LB even called it an exploit. (NOT FISHING THROUGH 69 PAGES TO QUOTE, GO FUCK YOURSELF)

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